Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 02:17 -0700, Scott Doty wrote:
>>
>> Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >The alternative was not having the Shut Down option at all, so be
>> >careful what you wish for...=)
>>
>> I know you're kidding, sir, because such examples of false dichotomies
>> are clearly logical fallacies...and we know those never appear on
>> Fedora mailing lists... ;-)
>
> Well, not really. The Alt thing was added. For a few weeks before that,
> you only had Suspend and Log Out.
>
>> Seriously, though:  it doesn't do much good to exemplify "bold
>> leadership" by proudly  following Gnome off a cliff...because I
>> strongly doubt the Fedora community will do likewise.
>
> What's the alternative, maintain long-term patches to a desktop despite
> the fact that most of our desktop team are part of the upstream GNOME
> development team? It's not likely.

Well, one possible alternative would be to include by default (or
loudly advertise) the Alternative Status Menu gnome-shell extension,
which adds the "Power Off..." entry under Suspend.

>
> Fedora follows upstream. If you don't like what GNOME is doing, you can
> always not use it: Fedora provides many other desktops.
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