On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 19:55, Andy Lawrence <dr.diesel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, without applets and without a new widget system. System tray icons are still there: in fallback in the old tray, in Shell in the message tray.
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All these things work in Shell *and* in fallback mode. In fallback mode they are pretty much the same as they've always been; in Shell they are in slightly different locations but still exist. (Firewall and selinux GUI's are a distro thing.) I'd like to know where you're getting your misinformation so we can cut that off at the source.
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You can turn it on if you care about it that much; the ability hasn't been removed.
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No server admin is going to initiate a server reboot from a GUI menu *today* and they still won't with GNOME 3. And we're *years* away from RHEL7; give it time and maybe the UI will reach the level of service status maturity that would be required to make such a GUI reliable enough to use to judge what to do with a server.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jason D. Clinton <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It will be considered "ready" without widgets.Without widgets,
No, without applets and without a new widget system. System tray icons are still there: in fallback in the old tray, in Shell in the message tray.
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firewall control, vino, any method for user groups/control, selinux menu, ability to reboot, menu system missing "programming",
All these things work in Shell *and* in fallback mode. In fallback mode they are pretty much the same as they've always been; in Shell they are in slightly different locations but still exist. (Firewall and selinux GUI's are a distro thing.) I'd like to know where you're getting your misinformation so we can cut that off at the source.
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no desktop.
You can turn it on if you care about it that much; the ability hasn't been removed.
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As an RHEL admin I don't think my only option of "Suspend" is a good choice for my quad 4-core stack of servers.
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I wish the Gnome group well; but my servers, desktops and laptops are not tablets. ÂI really hate to think that will happen if this stuff ends up in RHEL7.
No server admin is going to initiate a server reboot from a GUI menu *today* and they still won't with GNOME 3. And we're *years* away from RHEL7; give it time and maybe the UI will reach the level of service status maturity that would be required to make such a GUI reliable enough to use to judge what to do with a server.
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