On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 15:36 -0500, James Laska wrote: > Behold, the branch point is upon us! Once branched, it's no longer a > free for all. Time to stabilize the release according to the > established release criteria [1]. This is especially important while > attempting to build an Alpha. Then perhaps the branch point should be move til beta or we need to rethink the proventesters process.. I looked at the idea loosely when it got proposed and what you need to do is taking the number of signed up proventesters then figure out how many of those proventesters are running rawhide as opposed to F14 updates-testing and F13 updates-testing but let's just say that each proventesters is running all three then, take the amounts of update and the average time it takes each proventester to install and perform minimum testing on the component being updated etc. etc. etc. and the rate we are pulling in proventester yata yata ( We probably have few math experts that can lay down the math for this completely and they can probably also deliver the math of the required amount of proventesters limited to just the component on the media we hand out to people ) and I'm no rocket scientist but I soon came to the conclusion that we cant cover all the component with the rate we are pulling in proventesters and new components being introduced thus this solution does not scale on distribution level and rather acts as an obstacle to the development model we have in place and our end user then a benefit. And all of the above is beside the point that I am unable to test any Gnome desktop app due to mutter constantly causing segfault in my display driver at this point and I suspect other reporters are in same or similar shoes. Just keep what I mention in the back of your head regarding the proventester process... JBG -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test