On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 19:16:59 +0000, > Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Please don't. There's a lot of devices that can't run gnome-shell but >> can run the gnome 2 configuration perfectly. With dependencies like >> that on devices with small amounts of space you end up with a lot of >> extra stuff you don't want or need. There must some other way to >> achieve it for those that want it without forcing those that can't >> have or don't want it to have unnecessary isssues and deps. > > Ideally, I'd think you'd want to have it pulled in by default when going from > F13 or F14 to F15 (and probably F16) and then be able to removed it manually. > I don't know if there is some trickery with obsoletes that might get this > to work. Well you'd want to be able to exclude it as well and adding it as an artificial dep to something like gnome-session won't allow it to be removed. >> Given that "yum upgrade" isn't a fully supported method for upgrade I >> don't see any issue with documenting that they then need to do a "yum >> groupinstall gnome3" as the documented ways of doing yum upgrade have >> always suggested to do similar to get new apps that weren't previously >> installed. > > Preupgrades are officially supported. Do preupgrades have a way of specifying > that certain packages should be included without creating a hard dependency? > > Also it seems that right now gnome-shell is a hard dependency for gnome as > metacity (at least, I don't know about compiz) doesn't get started by > default when gnome-shell is missing. I think that's probably just an oversight, > but they may be something more complex going on. Metacity works fine for me in rawhide Peter -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test