Quick note for Rawhide users: I am in the process of landing Compiz 0.9 now. Adel and I have been testing the 0.9 migration in a side repo - http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/Compiz09/compiz09/ - for a while now, and we're happy it's working pretty well. Note that we're using the upstream 'compiz-with-glib-mainloop' branch: this contains some changes that are needed for Unity, and will be merged into upstream master quite soon. We agreed with Sam Spilsbury, the upstream compiz maintainer, that it'd work out well for everyone if we help to test the glib-mainloop changes in Rawhide to make sure they can be merged upstream faster. Quick summary of most important changes: * gconf configuration storage backend is deprecated * configuration from compiz 0.8 will not migrate to 0.9; you'll have to re-do your configuration * desktop-effects is deprecated and broken, do not use it: install 'compiz-gnome' and there'll be a 'Classic GNOME with Compiz' choice at the login manager you can use to get a GNOME 2 + Compiz-style desktop (with panel, not Shell) * use ccsm to configure Compiz, configuration done in ccsm will actually work and be saved now * KDE integration not tested yet Here's some more detailed notes on the changes: * We're deprecating gconf as a backend for storing Compiz/plugin configurations. It's caused all sorts of problems over the years and is more or less deprecated upstream, and gconf itself is going out as well. Compiz may grow a dconf/gsettings backend, but in practice, it's probably better to just use the flat-file (ccp) configuration system anyway, it seems to be a lot less problematic. So all the gconf schemas are now in -gconf subpackages which you don't have to install unless you really, really want to use the gconf configuration storage system for some reason. If you do, you'll have to make sure whatever method you use for launching compiz sets the 'gconf' parameter instead of 'ccp'. The compiz-gtk script which most people probably wind up using, one way or another, to launch compiz now specifies 'ccp' not 'gconf'. I have tested the 'ccp' configuration method quite carefully and can report that, contrary to how it's been in Fedora for a while, Compiz configuration you set with ccsm actually works now. :) I have not tested the gconf configuration storage backend, and don't know if it works. I know ccsm 0.9 isn't actually capable of storing configurations in gconf yet, so you'd have a tricky time using it. It's deprecated. If it's not working, you get to keep both halves. File a bug and we'll see what we can do. If you're wondering where the flat-file configuration storage actually lives, it's in ~/.config/compiz-1 . Configuration from 0.8 does not migrate to 0.9. You'll have to re-do your configuration. This isn't a consequence of the gconf stuff mentioned above, it's just an upstream change: for all config storage backends, there was a clean break from 0.8 to 0.9 and configuration is not carried over. Ubuntu has some patches which attempt to migrate 0.8 configs to 0.9, but they're not 100% reliable and add time to each startup, so they are not likely to be merged upstream, so we won't be carrying them in Fedora. I'm afraid you'll have to re-do your configuration with the 0.9 switch, if you have a custom compiz configuration; sorry about that. desktop-effects is more or less deprecated now. It doesn't make a deal of sense for Fedora 15+. It works on the basis of changing the compositing and window managers for GNOME, and you can't really run GNOME Shell with Compiz as the compositing manager; the paradigm just isn't there. You can run 'classic GNOME' - with the gnome-panel instead of GNOME Shell - with compiz and gtk-window-decorator, but that's a very different experience from the Shell. The desktop team has said they don't really think desktop-effects is appropriate any more, and they won't be maintaining it. So what we've implemented instead is a desktop session definition called 'Classic GNOME with Compiz'. That means that, if you install the compiz-gnome package, then at the login manager - gdm, kdm, whatever - you'll have the 'Classic GNOME with Compiz' session listed as an option. This will start up a GNOME session with gnome-panel, compiz and gtk-window-decorator, instead of the 'true' GNOME 3, GNOME Shell-based experience. We felt this more appropriate to the actual nature of the various choices in Fedora 15, and it's simpler and more robust than what would have to be done to 'fix' desktop-effects for GNOME 3. The current version of desktop-effects won't even launch Compiz 0.9 properly, due to another bug; I could fix this (actually, I already have, but it would need to go 'upstream') but it may not be worth the trouble. Also, the 'cube' and 'wobbly windows' checkboxes in desktop-effects won't work any more, as they used the gconf backend. (Again, I have a patch for this - it just takes the checkboxes out - but it may make more sense just to kill desktop-effects in F15). I haven't tested the KDE integration stuff yet, but I intend to. Does anyone actually use Compiz with KDE 4? Please do report any bugs you come across, we'll be working with Sam to try and make 0.9 as reliable as possible by F15 release time. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
