On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 09:09 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > If I -1 a package either pulled from bodhi or when it hits > updates-testing, it does not stop it from getting pushed to stable Yes. -1 is an item of feedback, it's not a Hammer of Justice. > Perhaps I am not understanding the test system correctly. Am I right in > assuming that us testers are really there for comments and the > maintainer can just push whatever to stable regardless of karma obtained > in -testing or otherwise? For non-critpath packages, which both of the packages you cite are, yes. The maintainer can push the package if it meets the auto-push threshold they choose when submitting the update (this is a bit of a hack) or after seven days regardless of the feedback. They are not forbidden from pushing an update which has received any -1 feedback; it's an issue of judgment. We'd expect a maintainer would usually choose not to push an update that had received justified negative feedback, and this is usually what happens, but it's discretionary. If you believe the judgment was seriously wrong you could query this with the maintainer, and if you're not satisfied with their response, perhaps escalate it, probably best to do so initially via this list, but ultimately to FESCo, I think. > Maybe I've got it wrong? > > Two examples - are onboard and sunbird. I can understand sunbird - I'd > push a buggy sunbird to fix thunderbird. We'd need more details to discuss whether the maintainers were right to push despite your feedback. It's not always intrinsically wrong to do so. I have seen negative feedback filed inappropriately. The current karma system is insufficiently precise, and we're keen to get a non-numeric karma system which would help; this is roadmapped for the next major release of Bodhi. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
