On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 09:27 -0500, James Laska wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 11:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > Read a couple of reviews and blog posts mentioning this, if you use ntp > > via firstboot in Fedora 14 and you login, you get SELinux warnings on > > login. I tried testing this in a vm and this is very much reproducible > > and is such a jarring user experience. > > > What can we do to avoid these class of problems for the next release? > > At release time, the criteria [1] are written to include experiences > like this. > > "In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages > or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and subsequent login > (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ)" > > The gap here is that we don't spell out all configuration options in > firstboot and whether they should result in a clean login experience. > For something like the issue you mention, it would make a good > discussion topic as to whether it represents a valid release blocker. I > can see arguments for both sides. > > Another gap is that we don't actively test/explore all firstboot > configuration options and their impact on setroubleshoot. I've been tracking the same issue and I recently added it to the retrospective. We can probably broaden out the relevant test case: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_error_checks -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test