2010-08-09 Fedora QA meeting recap

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As usual, minutes and irc transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100809

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
      * jlaska (154)
      * adamw (71)
      * wwoods (32)
      * dgilmore (19)
      * j_dulaney (18)
      * kparal (12)
      * skvidal (10)
      * zodbot (8)
      * fcami (8)
      * redwolfe (7)
      * fenrus02 (7)
      * lmacken (5)
      * Viking-Ice (4)
      * poelcat (3)
      * vaschenb (2)

Unable to attend:
      * liam
      * rhe
      * Newgle1

= Agenda =
      * Proposed meeting agenda -
        http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-August/092538.html 
      * MeetBot summary -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-09/fedora-qa.2010-08-09-15.00.html 

== Previous meeting follow-up ==
     1. adamw and jlaska to propose artwork final release criteria
              * No updates, pre-occupied with Alpha testing.  Keep on
                the list for next week.

== F14 Alpha test milestones ==
Owner - rhe
Summary
      * F-14 Alpha RC#2 compose CD and DVD images are available for test
        (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3856)
Next steps...
      * Continue posting test results (see
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Alpha_RC_Test_Results)
      * Review blocker bugs
             1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/597858 - Move 597858 back to
                VERIFIED ... updated packages available but not yet
                pushed to updates-testing
             2. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/619889 - newer dbus needs to
                be included with systemd-6-2 update
             3. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/620211 -
                [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/eclipse-pydev-1.5.9-2.fc14 updated eclipse-pydev] available to resolve this dependency issue
             4. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/621864 - possible bug in
                [http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=blob_plain;f=tests/conflicts/potential_conflict.py;hb=HEAD potential_conflict.py] test script.  Skvidal looking for confirmation from rpm maintainers for expected behavior.  That feedback will confirm whether rpm bug or test script bug.
             5. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/622058 - basically the
                problem is that the 'firstboot' service makes several
                assumptions that get broken in systemd-land.  Mgracik
                needed to help move this forward

== AutoQA update ==

Owner - [[User:wwoods]]
Summary
      * last week we merged (what I believe to be) the last of the
        foundation stuff we wanted to get into autoqa before F14
      * depcheck work became the primary focus
Next steps...
     1. Upgrade path test -- https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/123
     2. Standardize hook args --
        https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/199
     3. Update wiki to match the recent changes (control.autoqa, using
        AutoQATest, hook args, etc.) (see
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Writing_AutoQA_Tests)
     4. Write a control.autoqa and some test cases for depcheck --
        https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/202
     5. More depcheck activities (see roadmap
        https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=Package+Update+Acceptance+Test+Plan+-+depcheck)

= Open discussion - <Your topic here> =

= Upcoming QA events =

      * 2010-07-29 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (see
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Alpha_TC_Test_Results)
      * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #3  -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-07-30/blocker-review.2010-07-30-16.00.html 
      * 2010-08-05 - Test Alpha Candidate (see
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Alpha_RC_Test_Results)
      * 2010-08-06 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4 -
        http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-08-06/fedora_14_alpha_blocker_review.2010-08-06-16.01.html 
      * 2010-08-11 - Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
      * 2010-08-12 - Fedora 14 Alpha Release Readiness Meeting
      * 2010-08-17 - Alpha Public Availability

= Action items =
     1. adamw and jlaska to propose artwork final release criteria
     2. jlaska to inquire how frequently boot.fp.org gets updated F-14
        install images
     3. 621864 - jlaska to check-in with skvidal to see whether
        potential_conflict.py script updates are required for proper %
        ghost handling
     4. 622058 - jlaska to ping mgracik for guidance on pending
        firstboot changes

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