On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 23:01 -0400, Bob Lightfoot wrote: > BobLfoot's next comment: I just ran yum update > --enable-repo=updates-testing --skip-broken -y and when I went to run > f-e-k I was presented with three packages to provide feedback on. 1) > ppp 2) xorg-x11-xinit 3) xsane-common and xsane-gimp. 1) I've never > used ppp networking so this would be a package I'd of karma 0 and "not > tested" comment prior to Adam's request that we not do so. The Actually, ppp is a critical path package, so going by what I wrote, it would be okay to leave a 0 karma 'didn't break critical path but not directly tested'. (Although actually, for ppp, we really need feedback from people who actually use PPP connections). > suggestion to "just remove the package" is unacceptable in this case > also since yum erase ppp wipes out Network Manager. So not testing > would be a nice choice here for me rather than having to skip it every > time. a karma of I or 7 which didn't factor into the total karma math > but caused the system not to represent works great. 2) I run x on my > VM but don't know if I have an Xorg file or not and wouldn't have a > clue how to test for a missing bang to shebang unless the developer > choose to publish a test protocol. Again, a critical path package, so it's fine to leave a comment here. And yeah, that's a terrible update description, just awful. (Sorry, mcepl :>) A shebang is one of those bits at the start of a script that looks like this: #!/bin/bash which tells the system what shell the script is supposed to be run with. The shebang is the #! part. The # is the 'she', the ! is the 'bang'. So this means some script in the package had been accidentally left reading: #/bin/bash and the update fixes that. It doesn't explain *which* file has the fix, though, or what the actual impact of it being broken was. Or provide a bug number. > So not testing would be a nice choice here also, but I guess I'll just > have the annoyance of skipping this going forward. 3) Xsane will get > tested before I provide feedback, I have an HP flatbed connected and > will exercise xsane. Small sample but must pass over 2/3 to get to the > one that counts. Does anyone else encounter or follow my point? In general, indeed, you've explained pretty well why sometimes you'd have a package installed but not be able to directly test it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test