On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 01:03 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 07/14/2010 06:25 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > I'm not making assumptions here. > But then you go on to do exactly that: > > Bugzillas are designed to be easy to > > use for new reporters (at least that's the way I think of them). I'm > > sure upstream will not use "a bugzilla that takes several hours to file > > a bug report." > There are many, many computer users for whom bugzillas are not, and > never will be, easy to use. I have something in mind for such users. Lets see. > > One point I think Jóhann is trying to make is that there are many Fedora > package maintainers who are too quick to upstream and close tickets, and > he is concerned that if we produce documentation and guidelines > emphasizing upstreaming over Fedora taking ownership of issues and > getting them resolved, the problem will get worse. > > Another point I think he's trying to make is that each time a Fedora > package maintainers upstreams and closes a ticket, it damages Fedora's > reputation. True, the damage from each individual incident could be > quite small, but it all adds up. > > I think what Jóhann is hoping for, and I am hoping for it as well, is > that you go into what you are doing with your eyes open to these issues. > If the effort you are embarking on is not done carefully and properly, > there's a good chance that the negative side-effects, in terms of > increasing the amount of inappropriate upstreaming, will outweigh any > benefit. > > jik > hey, I'm going to be mailing the list and keeping you folks up to date with whatver I do. Please comment and let me know if I'm going the right way. Thanks! Ankur -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test