On 07/07/2010 12:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Adam Williamson<awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Thinking about it, though, we could consider a slightly different >> process for the kernel, as it's a component that's *extremely* subject >> to different experiences for different users. I'm not sure the workflow >> we've designed will work terribly well for kernels. I suspect it'll be >> all too easy for a kernel which actually contains a major regression to >> be approved; all it needs is for a proventester who doesn't happen to >> own the hardware concerned to find it works fine on their system, and >> file a +1, and anyone else to file a +1 too, and it'd be approved, even >> though someone who does own the hardware might come by and test an hour >> later and find the problem... >> >> we might want to design a system for the kernel where all proventesters >> hold off posting positive feedback for a day or two, until several >> proventesters and regular testers have had the chance to check for >> regressions. > > That was exactly my thought too - I saw these kernel updates were > there but thought that to satisfy the current criteria as best I could > I would wait and see what comments that came in to bodhi over the next > day or so looked like and then install and test. If I then saw no > negatives, and my own tests found no problems then I felt +1 would be > valid, but I wanted re-assurance from people here first. It would seem > that in this situation neutral karma from a proventester would not be > particularly useful as the package would not get the necessary push to > stable unless a proventester gives +1. If this is acceptable as a way > forward I would be happy with that but as you say for the kernel > perhaps an additional paragraph in the draft would be useful. Silly idea...how about assigning a requirement that each bugfix (or at least a majority of them) in a kernel require positive karma before the kernel is blessed? The idea is that most bugfixes are just that--fixes. Otherwise it'd be silly to release it, not so? It's just a thought. It's the criteria I use when I release code. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ricks@xxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test