Greetings folks! See below for minutes from today's QA meeting. As always, details are available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100419 = Attendees = People present (lines said): * jlaska (174) * kparal (39) * maxamillion (28) * adamw (23) * jskladan (19) * wwoods (16) * fenris02 (8) * zodbot (4) * Oxf13 (3) * _lmr_ (2) Regrets: * [[User:liam]] * [[User:rhe]] = Agenda = * Proposed meeting agenda - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-April/090226.html * MeetBot summary - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-04-19/fedora-qa.2010-04-19-15.00.html == Fedora 13 RC test status == Upcoming test milestones: * 2010-04-16 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #1 ([http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-04-16/f-13-blocker-bug-review.2010-04-16-15.12.html recap]) * 2010-04-16 - Pre-RC Branched Acceptance Test Plan * 2010-04-23 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #2 * 2010-04-29 - Test 'Final' Test Compose * 2010-04-30 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #3 * 2010-05-05 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #4 * 2010-05-06 - Test 'Final' RC Upcoming test days: * 2010-04-22 - [[Test_Day:2010-04-22_StorageFiltering]] * 2010-04-29 - [[Test_Day:2010-04-29_Preupgrade]] Fedora 13 QA Retrospective: * Ideas have already been coming in since F-13-Alpha. It's not too early to note QA issues you felt where handled '''well''', or could have been '''improved'''. Your ideas will be used during F-14 QA goal planning. Voice your comments at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective Questions: * ''fenris02'' - asked how to update boot.fedoraproject.org configs to use F-13-Beta. Jlaska noted that the configs appeared updated in ([http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-infrastructure.git;a=blob;f=bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_install.conf;h=26acb46afa285f999356c912305395294240b0dd;hb=HEAD infrastructure.git]), but promised to follow-up with ''fenris02' after the meeting == Bodhi QA workflow status check-in == * Adam Williamson asked lmacken and mathieu for a heads up as to when the improved feedback system will be available. Adamw noted that mathieu is working on it in the 'tg2 branch' (turbogears 2). * Jlaska asked if there were requirements for bodhi-2 posted, adamw indicated that [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-March/134087.html his earlier email], and dledford's, were being used as the initial requirements. == Proventesters check-in == * Adam Miller asked whether a vote was needed to move things forward. Adam Williamson offered sending a final draft mail to the list, noting the policy would go into effect if no serious objections surface. * After the final draft, jlaska asked what steps should follow. The group came up with: * Submit a ticket to create ''proventester'' FAS group * Email test@xxxxxxxx to invite people to apply to ''proventester'' group * Flesh out some test guidance for members of the ''proventester'' group (links to [[User:Kparal/Proposal:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan|QA:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan]] or [[:Category:Test_Cases]]). == Package Acceptance Test Plan check-in == * Kamil Paral discussed the current state of the [[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kparal/Proposal:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan|QA:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan]]. Kamil noted that we can have the test plan completed before F-13 is released, but work to automate the test plan won't be completed and will be tracked separately as a combination of AutoQA milestones ([https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20Sanity%20Tests Package Sanity Test], [https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Resultdb Resultsdb], [https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa%20depcheck depcheck]). * Kamil plans to send a final draft to the test@xxxxxxxx list for review. AdamW pointed out he was pretty please with the state of the test plan. == AutoQA check-in == Josef Skladanka updated the group on several AutoQA activities: 1. Getting URLs of test results from AutoQA testruns is nearly finished. Patches out for review on [https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/autoqa-devel autoqa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 2. The beakerlib-based initscript test is now in production (see [https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2010-April/016011.html sample results]) 3. Making progress on the resultsDB - We have finished the db schema (see [[AutoQA_resultsdb_schema]]) and accepted a input API (see [[AutoQA_resultsdb_API]]) 4. Next steps ... * Prototyping the resultsdb and using an XMLRPC based API to populate with results (jlaska, 16:06:12) * Creating a front-end which will be used for review/publish the data Kamil Páral updated the group on his AutoQA focus areas: 1. In addition to the notes above from Josef, working with Petr Splichal to automate the [[QA:Package_Sanity_Test_Plan]] (track plans using the [https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20Sanity% 20Tests autoqa PST milestone]). 2. Package Sanity ensures clean install, removal, upgrade, etc of the packages (see [http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=blob;f=tests/package_sanity/examples/cheese-rpm-summary.txt;h=830a0a9311eb4e8442fd3858c0ad67ce694ad6c9;hb=refs/heads/pst sample test output]). There is already a 'pst' script in the repository which you can try to perform sanity tests on a downloaded package or package in a repo. 3. Next steps ... * detect that new updates are pushed to bodhi * download the package and all relevant packages Will Woods provide some updates on his AutoQA focus areas: 1. We have enough info about current bodhi to write a bodhi update watcher, but it may have some shortcomings and will soon be obsoleted 2. We have a proposed storage encoding for putting test plan metadata in the wiki (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Test_Plan_Metadata_Test_Page), this will be used by the resultsdb == Open discussion - <Your topic here> == * No topics discussion = Action items = 1. jlaska + fenris02 to review whether F-13-Beta is an option for boot.fedoraproject.org 2. kparal will bother other QA members if they have some comments to the test plan :) 3. maxamillion - send Proventester draft to test@xxxxxxxx for final review 4. maxamillion - Request new proventester FAS group
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