2010-03-22 - Fedora QA Meeting Recap

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As always, IRC transcript and minutes available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100322

= Attendees =

People present (lines said)

      * jlaska (123)
      * adamw (45)
      * maxamillion (32)
      * wwoods (19)
      * kparal (15)
      * jskladan (3)
      * zodbot (3)
      * Viking-Ice (3)
      * Southern_Gentlem (2)

Regrets:
      * [[User:liam]]
      * [[User:rhe]]

= Agenda =
      * [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089489.html Proposed meeting agenda]
      * [http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-22/fedora-qa.2010-03-22-16.00.html MeetBot summary]

== Previous meeting follow-up ==

     1. adamw to check-in with wwoods on tooling needs for priv esc.
        test
              * Waiting for input from wwoods, will check-in again next
                week
     2. maxamillion seeking input from the [[Mentors]] group for
        guidance on mentor responsibilities
              * got 1 response so far, see below for continued
                discussion

== Fedora 13 test status ==

Upcoming test milestones:
     1. 2010-03-18 - Beta 'test compose'
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_13_Beta_TC_Test_Results
              * Jkeating and dlehman working together to determine what
                packages to include in 'test compose' ... expected end
                of day today
     2. 2010-03-25 - Beta 'release candidate'
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_13_Beta_RC_Test_Results

Upcoming test days:
     1. 2010-03-25 - Printing Test Day (twaugh) -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-03-25_Printing
     2. 2010-03-30 - SSSD by default Test Day (sgallagh+jlaska) -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-03-30_SSSDByDefault
     3. 2010-04-01 - ABRT Test Day (kparal+jmoskovc) -
        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-01_ABRT

Wwoods noted it would be great if there was an SOP available so that
direct involvement with QA wasn't required. Jlaska pointed to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management

== Updates Testing ==

There are some disparate efforts underway designed to improve the
Updates testing workflow.  Currently, the only defined process discusses
using {{command|yum}} to enable ''updates-testing'' (see [[QA/Updates
Testing]]).  Jlaska asked the group for ideas on what tasks are needed
to define a process by which testers can provide test feedback for
updated packages.

Ideas included:
     1. we need a policy/sop for the 'proventesters' group
     2. we need a guide to providing updates-testing feedback for
        branched + released explaining what should be tested and how to
        give feedback
     3. we need general guidance on that which applies to all packages;
        having specific instructions for some is also good, but the
        priority should be to define exactly what the acceptance testing
        is supposed to check
     4. Improve documenting around using fedora-easy-karma

adamw and maxamillion took actions items for follow-up next week.

== Open discussion - <Your topic here> ==

=== Adjust meeting time? ===

      * Kparal and jskladan asked whether the QA meeting time could
        adjust to keep the localtime the same, but change UTC.  
      * This would moving the meeting from 16:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC during
        spring+summer.  
      * No objections were made during the meeting, jlaska would raise
        the topic on the list as well.

= Action items =

     1. wwoods and adamw to discuss tooling needs for priv esc. test
     2. maxamillion will work on second draft of provenpackagers
        proposal
     3. adamw will provide a draft for the update test plan
     4. jlaska to post meeting time change request to test@xxxxxxxx

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