> Tom Horsley (horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx) said: > > > That's never set by default, so you'd have them both managing > > > the same interfaces. > > > > If NetworkManager isn't written to explicitly manage only > > interfaces which say NM_MANAGED=yes, then the developers need > > their brains fixed. > > NetworkManager is the default. Having the default do nothing > unless additional configuration is done is sort of pointless. > > Bill Nottingham NM_CONTROLLED=yes is the default. If NM_CONTROLLED is not specified, this is the assumed value. The purpose of NM_CONTROLLED is to allow a configuration parameter NM_CONTROLLED=no to designate an interface that will not be managed by NetworkManager. Whenever a default is changed, there is a possibility for surprise. "It's broken." is often the initial conclusion when what used to work now fails. Curiously, the more experience we have, the faster we are likely to say "It's broken." because our experience gives us confidence we know what should happen - and are therfore more likely to be surprised, caught unawares, by a changed default. I, and probably a significant number of others, have learned to configure NM_CONTROLLED=no (there is a convenient little check box in system-config-network's GUI) and "CHKCONFIG NetworkManager off" and "CHKCONFIG network on" in cases where we perceive no benefit from NetworkManager. Perhaps in the future NetworkManager will become more useful (or, at least, perceived as innocuous) in cases where it is now avoided because it is unfamiliar or does something undesirable. One problem is that, after several Fedora releases delivered NetworkManager problems, those who experienced these problems are reluctant to try again: "Turn off NetworkManager." has become simply part of our habitual Fedora configuration, and may remain so even after the reason we did this no longer is valid. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test