Hey, I just set up a fresh F12 vm, then I logged in and tried to update the system. I was greeted with an 'internal system error' dialog. After seeking advice I learned that I need to manually update yum and PackageKit before doing the wholesale system update. I think this is a pretty dire issue, essentially a dead-on-arrival system. One more reason why we need to batch updates and test them as a whole. What mechanisms to we have in place to prevent issues like this from repeating in F13 ? Does autoqa run any 'update a fresh install to all current updates' kind of test ? Matthias -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test