As always, wiki version (along with irc transcript) available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100118. = Attendees = People present (lines said) * jlaska (141) * wwoods (30) * adamw (22) * kparal (21) * Viking-Ice (8) * nirik (5) * cwickert (5) * zodbot (4) * RodrigoPadula (3) * buggbot (1) * abadger1999 (1) * tk009 (1) Regrets: * [[User:liam]] * [[User:rhe]] = Agenda = * [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-January/088008.html Proposed meeting agenda] * [http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-18/qa.2010-01-18-16.00.html meetbot summary] == Previous meeting follow-up == * maxamillion bring back conversation about Xfce 4.8 updato on xfce@xxxxxxxxxx and inform about conclusion ** No updates, save for next week * Viking-Ice write lxde tests and find a date for the test day ** Created [https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/46 ticket#46], agreed to move future discussion to the ticket * cwickert to file an infrastruture ticket for the lxde mailing list ** https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/lxde * adamw and rhe to discuss ways to add install testing as a QA activity ** [[User:rhe|Hurry]] created a new install test home at [[QA/Installation_Test]]. The idea is to have that big explanatory page, and a bit in the 'joining' page which would link to it ** Adamw would look for possibilities to propose integrating the new home with the existing [[QA:Fedora_13_Install_Test_Plan]]. * jlaska to reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process (or point to existing documentation) for how bugs are noted (common_bugs, release notes, install guide etc...) How to determine which bugs land in which place? ** Yuck, no traction on this task, jlaska will get things rolling with this task. == Security Policy Update == On Friday's FESCO Meeting, Adam and Will responded to questions concerning building project-wide consensus around a security policy for Fedora (see FESCO [https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/297 ticket#297]). Adam informed the group that FESCO kicked it back to the QA team with a promise that if we come up with some kind of draft policy, people who have a clue about security will be gracious enough to review it. So as far as FESCo is concerned the next thing that happens is I come back with a draft privilege escalation policy in hand. Adam noted he would draft something quick'n'dirty using [http://spot.livejournal.com/312216.html Spot's famous blog post] as a foundation, then seek QA team review before approaching FESCO. == fedora-release-rawhide == [[User:wwoods|wwoods]] noted that a new fedora-release-rawhide package may impact how we document opting into (and out of) testing rawhide via yum (see [[Releases/Rawhide#Testing_Rawhide]]). Nirik offered updates to [[Releases/Rawhide]] to help explain how to activate the rawhide repos. Jlaska suggested that testers on test@xxxxxxxx would no doubt be able to help review the recommendations. == AutoQA project update == === rpmguard package comparison === * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20update %20tests * Owner - [[User:kparal]] ''Last week'' * the small task ahead is to start sending output to autoqa-results and address any issues that surface ''This week'' * Test results are now sent to autoqa-results, the next large step is ... * Continue discussing and start requirements gathering for a more formal method for collecting and presenting package update test results (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-January/000120.html) === Deps/conflicts prevention === * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa% 20depcheck * Owner - [[User:wwoods]] ''Last week'' * working w/ lmacken to figure out how to gather information for a ''post-bodhi-update'' trigger ''This week'' * lmacken working an API change into the next release of bodhi * A close to working depsolv test case (see [http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=blob;f=tests/depcheck/depcheck]) is available. Further clean-up needed. === install automation === * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Automate% 20installation%20test%20plan * Owner - [[User:lili]], [[User:rhe]] ''Last week'' * [[User:lili]] and [[User:rhe]] have started exploring test design using the rats_install/install.py test as a starting point. ''This week'' * Continue working towards a single python test that will automate a DVD install * Publish test code using either a public git branch, code on a people page, just a local git checkout === packaging/deployment === * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Packaging%20and% 20Review * Owner - [[User:jlaska]] ''Last week'' * Looking for autotest-client help with reviewing the package * Scope out effort required to package autotest, gwt (BuildRequires) and all of it's BuildRequires - see [[User:Jlaska/gwt]] ''This week'' * Continue to harden the next-steps for JARs in the ''uncertain'' (see [[User:Jlaska/gwt#Status_uncertain]]) * Attempt to rework some directory permissions as requested in autotest-client review Current status on packaging: * autotest-client - undergoing review - {{bz|548522}} * autoqa - packaged (see [http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/autoqa/autoqa-0.3-2.fc12.src.rpm autoqa-0.3-2.fc12.src.rpm]), will submit once autotest-client is accepted * gwt-* - Still scoping out packaging needs (see [[User:Jlaska/gwt]]) * autotest - packaged (see [http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/autoqa/autotest-0.11.0-4.el5.src.rpm autotest-0.11.0-4.el5.src.rpm], will submit for review after gwt* accepted == Open discussion - <Your topic here> == === When is the next F-13 milestone? === Wwoods asked when the next scheduled rawhide install image drop was (see [[#Upcoming QA events]] below (2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1). See [https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3277 rel-eng ticket#3277] for details. Jlaska also noted that anaconda-13.16 (plus http://clumens.fedorapeople.org/updates.img) had recently gone through an automated rats_install test run. For results, see http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/rats.png. = Upcoming QA events = * 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1 * 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2 * 2010-02-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3 * 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1 * 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing) * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2 = Action items = * jlaska - reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process for how bugs bubble through different release documents * adamw to build on the famous spot security blog post and draft something quick'n'dirty for QA review * nirik intends to update the [[Releases/Rawhide]] wiki page to reflect the changes (help appreciated)
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