On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:47 -0500, Fulko Hew wrote: > Shouldn't the symptom be solved at the root of the problem, not > inside every app? I think we generally end up with better usability if we address the problem at the application level. For example, I've seen instances where there's simply a gratuitous amount of whitespace, or gratuitously large icons, or fixed-sized windows (whether too big or too small) where dynamic window size would work better. Another common problem is overgrowth of preferences or failure to make them scrollable. Oftentimes I think the best solution for that is to prune the number of preferences to a more reasonable number, or better organize them into a larger number of smaller screens. It certainly wouldn't be unhelpful if the operating system did something more user-friendly to deal with situations where a window is simply too large to fit on the screen. Having the window manager put up scroll bars is an obvious solution, but this takes up valuable space on what is already a crowded screen. The WM could present a pop-up instructing the user to hold down Alt and drag the window as needed, but this seems like it could present accessibility problems. If people do want to advocate for a general solution, am I right in thinking it needs to be solved separately for Anaconda, each login manager, and each desktop environment? It's definitely good to send application developers feedback when they need to think more about how to display on smaller screens or screens with different aspect ratios (and wider screens are also becoming more common). Even if we are using 800x600 as a minimum, we still have applications that don't function well at that size. (Though I see the Fedora 12 Release Notes don't specify a minimum screen size under Hardware Requirements.) -B. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list