On 12/07/2009 10:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > During FUDCon, we've been working on revising the Fedora release criteria. > John Poelstra had already fleshed out a structure and much of the final > content, and we've been revising and tweaking it in conjunction with QA > (myself, Will Woods and James Laska), release engineering (Jesse Keating), > anaconda team (especially Denise Dumas and Peter Jones) and desktop team > (Christopher Aillon and Matthias Clasen, who provided suggestions at an > earlier stage). > > Is this discussion available somewhere online? > The new structure is based around a general page and specific pages for the > Fedora 13 Alpha, Beta and Final releases (which have been written > generically so they can easily be converted into pages for F14 and all > future releases just by copying and pasting). You can find the criteria > here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria > Category 10 in the Beta Release Criteria. "The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually" I think we first need to get established if Fedora officially "supports" upgrades now. If it does we need create and add several upgrade test cases and to do so we need to know what "default installation" is. What packages that installation contains and since Releng needs to provide us with that list it would be good if they document and explain at the same time how and why they choose to make that selection the default. ( Default dvd install from my perspective should just be secure base no auto selection for the end user in the installer. ) > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria > > they should contain everything you need to know. We based most of the > criteria around testing that was already being carried out but with no > formal policy basis, with additional suggestions from the anaconda and > desktop teams. > Where there representatives from all the *DE GNOME KDE, XFCE, LXDE SUGAR MOBLIN ( I would not be surprise if I'm forgetting some ) present and chimed in on this? What where these suggestion that Christopher and Matthias and others made encase any one wants to chime in and provide additional feedback? > Desktop team - can you please let us know of any additional things that you > would expect to be working at each point during the release cycle? Note > that only things that *must* be working at each point should be listed on > these pages, not nice-to-haves. You must be able to commit to the idea > that, if any criterion on the page is not met, we would slip the release in > question. > Was this sent to all the *DE lists? ( Noticed that only Gnome was cc on this ). JBG
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