On 11/26/2009 12:59 AM, James Laska wrote: > Over the next week, I plan to organize any feedback and discuss the > highlights during an upcoming QA team meeting. The goal will be to > prioritize the pain points and use as a basis for defining objectives > for Fedora 13. > > Thanks for your feedback! My personal experiences in addition to the impressions from reading all the end user forums, mailing lists and news sites is that Fedora 12 is a solid release. I request you to explicitly get feedback from atleast fedora-list and http://fedoraforum.org from end users directly. Adam and James, are you subscribed to fedora-list and keeping track of the discussions there? I think, there is room for improvement obviously: * IMO, RCs needs to advertised loudly. We need all the testing we can get and more alpha or beta snapshots would help as well, I think. * PackageKit signed install policy was a major issue and although QA was not really responsible for it, the team does need to do it all can do to avoid anything like this in the future . Signing Rawhide packages automatically would have caught this. Not many users in forum or fedora-list complained about it however. * Lot more users are trying Preupgrade and QA needs strong focus on the upgrade story including test days directed towards it. The small /boot is a major issue and another common bug (not listed in the wiki but I think needs to be added) is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538118 which makes the problem worse. We really need to make sure Anaconda creates a bigger /boot for Fedora 13, preupgrade is explicitly tested well and has solid workarounds for the small /boot case. * KMS is still flaky in some cases. In particular, a few Intel users seem to be reporting lower resolution by default without nomodeset and ATI performance seems to have regressed. Although I am no fan of proprietary drivers, I must note that installing the proprietary Nvidia driver has become a bit more of a hassle. Bottom line: Pretty good job, overall Rahul -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list