On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 04:05:57AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > ----- "Scott Robbins" <scottro@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I'm wondering if it's worth considering increasing grub's default > > timeout to 3 seconds or so. As it stands, one has to hover over the > > escape key, trying to time it correctly. (Or, if they're as lazy as > > I > > am, before rebooting, go to another terminal and edit the mounted > > grub.config.) > > Hello, > I would not try to cure the symptoms but the cause of the problem. > The problem is not "the timeout is short enough", but it is "it's > hard to get into grub boot screen". For example in the Windows world, > the bootloader doesn't show any items and doesn't wait, but *everyone > knows* that you just press F8 again and again on computer start if > you want to get into the rescue mode. Even my "common users" friends > know that (which also says something about product quality ;)). > > I have just googled a little and I have found out, that it should be > sufficient to hold Shift while starting up (really hold, no pressing > needed) and the boot screen shows. This is great. It should work mainly > for Grub 2, but from my attempts also Grub (1) available in Fedora 12 > responds to Shift holding. I would like to try that on an VMware ESX installation. Unfortunately, the only ones I have are production servers, though not mission critical--still, I suspect my developers might be annoyed. :) Hrrm, I *might* be able to talk them into it though, as they too, can be affected by it. The shift key would solve the issue, however, when one is at a local server. I wish I'd known that, and I thank you for the information. > > Does this solve your problem, or have I understood it incorrectly? This would solve it, if it works on VMs where the console is slow to react to key presses, such as a heavily loaded ESX server. Also, as you wrote, and I so rudely snipped, making sure that the users are aware of it would be the other factor. Regardless, that's a useful bit of information that I never knew. Have to try it later. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Buffy: Mom, the only way you get a new slayer is if the old slayer dies. Joyce: Then that means you... When did you die? You never told me you died. Buffy: It was just for a few minutes. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list