(if you can stand one more post on the topic, i'm still working on this for the entertainment value, and also to school myself in the intricacies of debugging upgrades of this complexity. and now, to the specific example.) just to see how much upgrading this would involve, i tried the following: # yum upgrade udev fully expecting to see *piles* of packages that would have to come along for the ride, and i was not disappointed: ... Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Install 44 Package(s) Upgrade 287 Package(s) Total size: 380 M ... further up the output, we have this verification: Installing: ... snip ... udev x86_64 145-12.fc12 rawhide 303 k replacing udev-extras.x86_64 20090226-0.5.20090302git.fc11 ok, all the dependencies were resolved so just let it go and see what happens: ... Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: file /lib/udev/hid2hci from install of udev-145-12.fc12.x86_64 conflicts with file from package bluez-4.42-9.fc11.x86_64 file /lib/udev/rules.d/70-hid2hci.rules from install of udev-145-12.fc12.x86_64 conflicts with file from package bluez-4.42-9.fc11.x86_64 # um ... what? why should the new udev conflict with the *existing* bluez given that bluez should be upgraded as well? # yum list bluez\* Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * fedora: fedora.mirror.iweb.ca * rawhide: mirror.its.uidaho.edu * rpmfusion-free: mirrors.tummy.com * rpmfusion-free-rawhide: mirrors.tummy.com * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirrors.tummy.com * rpmfusion-free-updates-testing: mirrors.tummy.com * updates: fedora.mirror.iweb.ca Installed Packages bluez.x86_64 4.42-9.fc11 @updates bluez-cups.x86_64 4.42-9.fc11 @updates bluez-libs.x86_64 4.42-9.fc11 @updates Available Packages bluez.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-alsa.i586 4.42-9.fc11 updates bluez-alsa.i686 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-alsa.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-compat.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-cups.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-gnome.x86_64 1.8-16.fc11 fedora bluez-gnome-analyzer.x86_64 1.8-16.fc11 fedora bluez-gstreamer.i586 4.42-9.fc11 updates bluez-gstreamer.i686 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-gstreamer.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-hcidump.x86_64 1.42-4.fc12 rawhide bluez-libs.i586 4.42-9.fc11 updates bluez-libs.i686 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-libs.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-libs-devel.i586 4.42-9.fc11 updates bluez-libs-devel.i686 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide bluez-libs-devel.x86_64 4.57-2.fc12 rawhide # as i read the above (and correct me if i'm doing this incorrectly), i certainly see a newer (rawhide) version of bluez that i would have thought would be part of the upgrade, but apparently it isn't. if i go back through the lengthy list of packages to be installed/upgraded, nothing of the form "bluez*" is listed. why not? it's listed as available, it's clearly(?) in rawhide, but it's somehow not being picked up in this sizable upgrade. how *would* one interpret the above diagnostic? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ======================================================================== -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list