The first step in finding and fixing a problem is coming up with a description of the fault that helps you identify and focus on the misbehaving component. That's what I've been struggling with since F12's alpha release. The sympton is a ThinkPad W700 uber-laptop that seems to "nap" constantly. An example of a "nap" is a long pause -- several minutes -- in one of the steps during a non-graphical startup. For example: between "Starting NFS statd:" and its "[ OK ]" completion. If I don't want to wait for the timeout, I can generate a hardware interrupt by left-clicking or touching the mouse or touchpad. I see from two to five such pause episodes during every startup, but they never occur at the same startup events. It's not confined to the boot sequence, either. It affects the NetworkManager-managed wireless port, which must frequently be manually reconnected. The clock often stops even though ntpd is running. I've even had to constantly trace a circle on the touchpad to keep a routine fsck session from stalling. If I remove my finger from the touchpad, the hard drive light stops blinking. I'm fairly certain this problem, whatever it is, is specific to F12 and not a hardware fault. It did not occur with F11 and earlier, nor when I replace the Fedora hard drive with the original Vista hard drive and boot up. It has manifested itself in both F12a and F12b releases, and through all updates. If I had to hazard a guess -- and a PWAG at that -- I might suspect something is wrong with the power management code. I'm open to suggestions. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list