On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 11:09 -0500, Richard Ryniker wrote: > Is this properly a Fedora or an upstream issue? > > If the KDE/Konqueror code upstream contains prejudice against operation > as root, then Fedora has no finger in this pie: it simply packaged the > code. The "allow/disallow root" argument belongs upstream; it is not > a Fedora issue. > > If Fedora has modified the upstream code to create this aversion to run > as root, then there are two questions: > > 1. Is it approprate to do this? This thread already contains enough > comments to strongly suggest there will be no concensus about this. > > 2. Has this been done in a thoughtful way? It may be an appropriate > default setting (avoids risks Fedora thinks users may not expect or > understand), but it should be possible to modify this default so root > operation of Konqueror is possible. > > If one builds Konqueror from upstream source, does it balk when invoked > as root? If it does, argue upstream. If it does not, look further into > what Fedora has done, but you now have a Konqueror you can use as root. I think a lot of people are arguing at cross-purposes here. Let me try and clarify. No-one believes you should not be able to run Konqueror as root, as far as I can tell. What some people are saying is that you should not be able to log in to the entire graphical desktop from the graphical login manager as root, which is arguably true, but entirely irrelevant to the main issue here. Most importantly, there is actually a big bug at the root of this discussion, it's filed and marked as a release blocker and there's an updated selinux-policy available that ought to fix it. The bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532748 , the fix is in http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=139739 . The bug stopped the 'kdesu' command working, which is what KDE internally uses whenever it wants to run something as root, and what some users are used to invoking directly to run KDE things as root. I suspect those who hit this bug were trying to run 'kdesu konqueror', and it wasn't working because of this bug. Others ran 'su -; konqueror', saw that it worked, and were confused. Does that hopefully clear most things up? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
