Fedora 12 seems to have some good improvements as far as making it easy to report bugs (send reports to bugzilla). For example, when an SELinux problem occurs, you can send a report to BZ using setroubleshoot ... it packages all the info, you feed it your BZ id and password and off the report goes ... neat! Then there is the new abrt. It is suppose to detect "application" crashes and then allow the user to report the problem ... great idea ... but ... I may be missing something but documentation for abrt seems a bit light. Furthermore, I do not understand how problems are handled ... or maybe I have found some abrt bugs ... I don't know. There are a lot of BZ reports against abrt but one that hits home to me is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528395 Until I saw this report, I did not know that I would need to invoke abrt-gui as root to see a number of the reports. This should be fixed! A user should not need to su to root and then run abrt-gui from the command line to do reporting on things like kerneloops ... in fact, until you do this, you may be completely unaware of such problems. I suggest that this be fixed BEFORE F12 is released! Gene -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list