Well personally, I find it very convenient that my broken cron jobs and system problems do actively send root email. I always configure my system so that I actually receive those emails. For the masses, I do agree that almost everyone is missing these, which could be a problem if something important is going haywire. There is an outstanding request to fix this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=135592 setup /etc/aliases so that useful email gets to someone A lot of stuff that gets sent to root's inbox (or /var/log/messages, for that matter) is just noise from normal operation, which I'm generally in favor of quieting unless debugging is explicitly requested. Perhaps once more people start getting all of root's mail, this sort of thing will get more attention. Certainly since I started getting kerneloops popups on my Gnome desktop, kernel burps have gotten a lot more attention from me. "clicky-pointy" is certainly helpful if you want to encourage desktop users to report bugs, even if they don't understand what they are reporting. In the case of kernel oopses, these messages are still logged so the headless sysadmin use case is also satisfied. "Send mail to root that is actually read" does seem like a nice way to satisfy both cases at once, and a desktop pop-up doesn't help all that much if there's no semi-automatic action to be taken (like filing a bug). I do worry that most people will give a remote email address (like their gmail or something). This will not work well when there is no network connectivity, and it seems to have some security/privacy implications. And there would need to be some GUI way to change that address for Fedora in case the user changes email providers. I wonder if it would be a good idea for desktop users to get some sort of notification that they have local mail waiting to be read, even if they don't have an email client running. Then firstboot would strongly recommend sending mail locally, so it would work more reliably (at the cost of not being co-mingled with all of your other email, though hopefully it would only get sent if something was malfunctioning). -B. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
