On 08/15/2009 03:15 PM, drago01 wrote: > File a bug against the xorg-x11-drv-ati and add information about > which hardware you use and the output of xrandr, whether you use kms > or not etc. > Because setting the correct video mode should work using the radeon > driver, if not its a bug that should be fixed, but to fix it it has to > be reported. That's a necessary pre-condition for a solution, but he really raises the more broad question about mainstream hardware support in Fedora. Fedora isn't merely at the mercy of its upstreams, I know we have some hard-working folks doing ATI support, but given the size of the challenge, there is alot of hardware that's simply not supported or doesn't work right. There's a tongue-in-cheek saying that OSS is the best software you can get for hardware that was made three years ago. ;) I'm running the radeonhd driver on my desktop because radeon can't get resolutions right on my fairly pedestrian ATI card (yes, there's a bug filed!). But there are nearly 300 problems currently reported against the radeon driver, about half as many on intel and about a third on nouveau. All told, a Fedora user might experience one of five hundred different display failure modes using commonly available hardware, which is an experience problem (the value of experience as a separate matter). I understand some of the reasons - radeon and nouveau getting blown up for rewrites, KMS, etc., but the net-result of my desktop is that video is broken and sound is broken (the Pulse problems) - for lots of folks Fedora works great as a server but the desktop is tricky and/or broken to one degree or the other. I live with it and try to help where I can, but one couldn't imagine selling Fedora 11 as a boxed good at a software store which is what some users want, and given the current state it doesn't seem like Redhat Desktop will be much better in its next rev. A while ago there was a linux PR effort saying "do you need a driver for your hardware? We'll write it for free. Please, just tell us how." About the same time ATI was saying it was opening all of its hardware (why I chose one over nVidia). If it were that straightforward, though, there wouldn't be so much unsupported hardware, so I have to admit I don't really understand this specific situation, but there is the larger issue of things like abandoning the old Radeon driver for the new in the distro and perhaps an opportunity to review criteria for similar future decisions. It may be that Fedora just has to accept whatever xorg decides to do, but it is complicated. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.603.448.4440 Email, IM, VOIP: bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf Social networks: bill_mcgonigle/bill.mcgonigle -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
