--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Flash instructions updated
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:47 PM
> On 05/23/2009 02:04 AM, David wrote:
>
> >
> > This is all baloney. Use the tool that will do what
> you need to do. A
> > computer is a machine, a toll. Not an altar. Bread on
^
r
missing `r` here?
> the table beats
> > hungry every time. IMO.
>
> I might personally choose to stay hungry on occasions if it
> means it
> brings food to a person who is more hungry. You have a
> personal stand
> point of using whatever tool that fits your needs and value
> not staying
> hungry.
>
> Fedora values are a bit different
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations
>
> It is ok to use a distribution that doesn't match your
> values perfectly
> but it important to recognize that there is such a
> difference. This
> doesn't mean that everyone who uses Flash is a traitor but
> again, this
> discussion is about a compromise. Fedora's compromise in
> the case of
> Flash is to describe how to install Flash but also warn
> users that they
> are installing proprietary software.
>
> People who value the virtues of Free software over the
> utilitarian
> benefits would choose to use swfdec or gnash and file bug
> reports when
> things don't work. Others would ignore the warning and
> install the
> proprietary software and deal with somehow when they face
> bugs. Again,
> it is a compromise. I doubt you are going to convince
> everybody who
> values free and open source software to abandon their
> beliefs in favor
> of your thinking. It is better to understand that there is
> a difference
> in values and respect that.
>
> Rahul
>
> --
Yes, sometimes we need proprietary software when the free software just does not cut it or does not meet our needs. Fedora values FREEDOM and we have that FREEDOM to get the stuff from Adobe/Nvidia/....
sed -i 's| free_stuff_that_does_not_work | put_propietary_stuff_that_works |g'
People do not have to abandon their right to a FREE system. But the users have to make that decision themselves not critize them for having to install the proprietary stuff. The users know that a big WARNING you are on your own. We cannot help you. You chose to install the other_stuff then you can't complain to Fedora for doing that. That is OK.
BTW,
all that stuff that fedora is Free, is only partially right. Remember the arguments "that old GNU argument", is a ghost of the past. There are some parts that are also propietary, how come no one says anything about that? Yes they might be just bits/bytes, but it is not totally 100% free according to FSF :(
My $0.02
Regards,
Antonio
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