ed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM, <fedora-test-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am sorry, but I am not sure what you mean??? If you mean file properties, then here it is:
Ogg Audio (audio/ogg)
4.0 Mb
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: X still freezing once in a while (MartinG)
2. Re: Upgrade from Beta to Preview (Brian Callahan)
3. Re: f11 preview experiences (Tom Horsley)
4. Re: SSH, firefox, and X (max)
5. F11 Preview - First impressions (E.B. A.)
6. Re: F11 Preview - First impressions (Mike Chambers)
7. Re: f11 preview experiences (TK009)
8. Re: F11 Preview - First impressions (Antonio Olivares)
9. Re: Can't stop log (Bill Davidsen)
10. Re: F11 Preview - First impressions (E.B. A.)
11. Re: F11 Preview - First impressions (Antonio Olivares)
12. rhythmbox (Rob Healey)
13. Re: F11 Preview - First impressions (Patrick O'Callaghan)
14. Re: rhythmbox (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:17:42 +0200
From: MartinG <gronslet@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: X still freezing once in a while
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM, iarly selbir | ski0s <iarlyy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have same problem here.
Me too, on a Lenovo ThinkPad T400 (as thread starter),
Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Smolt: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_8c3b9b48-bcf7-4f9d-9aab-183e80ba73e4
I also run an updated Rawhide, initially using UXA (the default when
there is no xorg.conf), but due to corrupted display when I started
emacs in graphics mode, I put up an minimalistic xorg.conf and chose
EXA.
I'm not 100% sure if I did have or didn't have the freezes when using
UXA, but I do get freezes when I use EXA.
At one point I thought it was due to java (jre-1.6.0_13-fcs.x86_64),
so I shut down all java stuff (killall java, turn off java globally in
konqueror, etc). Things didn't stabilize, so now I have gcaldaemon
running (java app), and use EXA, but no desktop effects, just plain
kwin.
What I've experienced is:
- X just freeze, I can move the mouse, but keyboard is dead.
- X just crash, I'm kicked out to the login screen
- When I resume, it seems I am given a vt that doesn't actually work,
but has an static image of the graphical screen, ie. I cannot move the
mouse, and no keyboard input is recorded. However, if I press
ctrl-alt-f1, I'm back in X, and things works.
- The lockup behavior might be dependent on whether I have been
through a suspend/resume cycle.
- Using EXA, I have seen corrupted glyphs on the screen (eg. "f" and
"t" are a bit shortened, and have an extra dash in them). I've also
seen random colored lines at random places on the screen.
I have:
kernel-2.6.29.1-102.fc11.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-2.fc11.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.1-6.fc11.x86_64
> I'm following this bug
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476743
I've seen this too, but *only* when using desktop effects or compiz.
Here's a report on KMS+UXA:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21181
It might very well be two or more different bugs (EXA vs UXA etc), but
equally annoying all of them...
-MartinG
(messerting on irc@freenode)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:41:16 -0400
From: Brian Callahan <cmdrunix@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Upgrade from Beta to Preview
To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Is there a way to change from Beta to Preview with yum ? I checked
the
> preview and the fedora-release rpm is the same as the Beta release.
>>If you are willing to go past the preview use yum update.
What do you mean. I was running Fed 10 and did a yum upgrade . I have
been yum updating since yesterday morning. My system still shows
rawhide. I was just thinking that the preview release would change the
repos from Rawhide to Fed 11 or even 10.92 but I am thinking now that
it doesn't get changed until the Final release. I just do want to be
on rawhide once I am on Fed 11. I will run the rawhide on a different
boot disk or in a VM.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:08:43 -0400
From: Tom Horsley <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: f11 preview experiences
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:29:59 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> That's all I can remember without my notes from last night,
> may have more to add this evening.
Forgot one: The progress bar for creating ext3 partition is
still completely frenetic :-).
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:15:52 -0400
From: max <maximilianbianco@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SSH, firefox, and X
To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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Well I got my happy ass up and went over to the other box on which firefox fails over ssh. It doesn't work at all. Funny because I used it a few days past and it worked then...well it didn't instantly crash, anyway exceuse the noise. Though the logout hanging still seems like a problem.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:20:18 -0500
From: "E.B. A." <usul80@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: F11 Preview - First impressions
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Hi all,
I installed and used F11 Preview and these are my first impressions.
- The system runs ok, I did not have any big problem. I have to admit it
looks more stable than I thought.
- Boot time is a bit higher than the advertised 20 seconds. It goes from 30
to 50 seconds. I rebooted the system about 5 times. It is still acceptable.
One question: when the system boots and the progress bar is displayed there
is no Fedora logo. Is this correct?
- The only problems I had so far are related to the Package Manager.
Sometimes when I modify the checkboxes in the repository list it freezes or
it shows an eternal "Waiting in queue" message. This happens sometimes even
if it is the first thing I do and even if all the update requests are done.
I have to say, it is slightly less usable than my experience on F9 (I missed
F10, sorry!). Once, after 10 minutes a "yum locked" window popped up.
- I tried to install KDE (both in terminal and using the package manger) but
I continuously get an signature error, which surprised me. See the
following:
Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed
[root@squarz ~]# ^C
[root@squarz ~]# ^C
[root@squarz ~]# yum install @kde-desktop
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
[...]
Total size: 306 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed
Thanks,
Enrico Accenti
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:45:12 -0500
From: Mike Chambers <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
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On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:20 -0500, E.B. A. wrote:
> Hi all,
> I installed and used F11 Preview and these are my first impressions.
>
> - The system runs ok, I did not have any big problem. I have to admit
> it looks more stable than I thought.
>
> - Boot time is a bit higher than the advertised 20 seconds. It goes
> from 30 to 50 seconds. I rebooted the system about 5 times. It is
> still acceptable. One question: when the system boots and the progress
> bar is displayed there is no Fedora logo. Is this correct?
Try running system-config-services and shutdown a few of the services
that you may not need and see what you get.
Menu/System/Administration/Services if your running the GUI
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Fedora Project - Bugzapper, Tester, User, etc..
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:54:55 -0400
From: TK009 <john.brown009@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: f11 preview experiences
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Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:29:59 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>
>> That's all I can remember without my notes from last night,
>> may have more to add this evening.
>>
>
> Forgot one: The progress bar for creating ext3 partition is
> still completely frenetic :-).
>
>
That is a feature to reduce the boredom during the install :p, a nice
"pick me up" to an otherwise routine task.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:11:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
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--- On Wed, 4/29/09, E.B. A. <usul80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: E.B. A. <usul80@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: F11 Preview - First impressions
> To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:20 PM
> Hi all,
> I installed and used F11 Preview and these are my first
> impressions.
>
> - The system runs ok, I did not have any big problem. I
> have to admit it
> looks more stable than I thought.
>
> - Boot time is a bit higher than the advertised 20 seconds.
> It goes from 30
> to 50 seconds. I rebooted the system about 5 times. It is
> still acceptable.
> One question: when the system boots and the progress bar is
> displayed there
> is no Fedora logo. Is this correct?
IT depends on the graphic card that you have. ie, some of the cards like ATI display the Fedora infinity logo correctly, others maybe Nvidia just show the progress bar, this depends on your graphics card. Which graphics card do you have?
>
> - The only problems I had so far are related to the Package
> Manager.
> Sometimes when I modify the checkboxes in the repository
> list it freezes or
> it shows an eternal "Waiting in queue" message.
> This happens sometimes even
> if it is the first thing I do and even if all the update
> requests are done.
> I have to say, it is slightly less usable than my
> experience on F9 (I missed
> F10, sorry!). Once, after 10 minutes a "yum
> locked" window popped up.
This is normal, if you are using CLI/command line yum, the PackageKit kicks in and tries to connect itself, but since yum is running already from command line, it complains that it cannot get the "exclusive Lock".
>
> - I tried to install KDE (both in terminal and using the
> package manger) but
> I continuously get an signature error, which surprised me.
> See the
> following:
> Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not
> signed
> [root@squarz ~]# ^C
> [root@squarz ~]# ^C
> [root@squarz ~]# yum install @kde-desktop
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> [...]
> Total size: 306 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
>
> Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not
> signed
This should not happen, rawhide packages are not signed. Maybe a bug. Also the way that you are trying to install KDE is different than I have seen. As long as it works it is OK. I have seen it recommendend to do a
# yum install "K Desktop Environment"
>
>
> Thanks,
> Enrico Accenti
> --
Regards,
Antonio
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:19:54 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Can't stop log
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max wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:01:57PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> After I booted my FC11 test system and did an update, I tried to
>> shutdown and got this failure.
>> I clicked system->shutdown->shutdown_button and the system hung. An
>> investigation of the log shows that attached behavior.
>>
>> If I log out and click the shutdown button it works, so it seems to only
>> happen when using the button while logged in.
>>
>> Running 'shutdown -h' as root also works.
>>
>> I assume that this is an SElinux behavior, before I BZ it, is it intentional?
>>
> Is there nothing in audit.log related to this?
>
The only thing which might be useful is attached. Time fits, and nothing within
minutes of that.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
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type=AVC msg=audit(1241012798.972:26): avc: denied { create } for pid=5301 comm="shutdown" scontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=netlink_audit_socket
type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1241012798.972:26): arch=40000003 syscall=102 success=no exit=-13 a0=1 a1=bf8159c0 a2=2faff4 a3=3 items=0 ppid=5299 pid=5301 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="shutdown" exe="/sbin/shutdown" subj=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
type=CRED_DISP msg=audit(1241012799.095:27): user pid=2069 uid=0 auid=501 ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred acct="root" exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/3 res=success)'
type=USER_END msg=audit(1241012799.097:28): user pid=2069 uid=0 auid=501 ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_close acct="root" exe="/bin/su" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=pts/3 res=success)'
type=SYSTEM_RUNLEVEL msg=audit(1241012799.232:29): user pid=5331 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:initrc_t:s0 msg='old-level=5 new-level=0: exe="/sbin/runlevel" (hostname=?, addr=?, terminal=console res=success)'
type=AVC msg=audit(1241012799.315:30): avc: denied { create } for pid=5336 comm="shutdown" scontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=netlink_audit_socket
type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1241012799.315:30): arch=40000003 syscall=102 success=no exit=-13 a0=1 a1=bf9fb880 a2=2faff4 a3=3 items=0 ppid=5313 pid=5336 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="shutdown" exe="/sbin/shutdown" subj=system_u:system_r:consolekit_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:07 -0500
From: "E.B. A." <usul80@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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Thanks Antonio. My video card is indeed a nVidia, that my explain why I
don't see the logo.
I still have the problem with KDE and ** any other package I try to
install**, including non repo apps such as Skype or Flash Player. This
happens both using the GUI and CLI.
See the following two attempts (I removed useless parts):
[root@squarz yum.repos.d]# yum install "K Desktop Environment"
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
No Match for argument: K Desktop Environment
No package K Desktop Environment available.
Nothing to do
[root@squarz yum.repos.d]#
-------
[root@squarz yum.repos.d]# yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Group Process
[...]
Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 118 Package(s)
Update 6 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Total size: 306 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not signed
[root@squarz yum.repos.d]#
Most probably I do something wrong, but I'd really like to know what!
Thanks for your time,
Enrico Accenti
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
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--- On Wed, 4/29/09, E.B. A. <usul80@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: E.B. A. <usul80@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
> To: fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:51 PM
> Thanks Antonio. My video card is indeed a nVidia, that my
> explain why I
> don't see the logo.
>
> I still have the problem with KDE and ** any other package
> I try to
> install**, including non repo apps such as Skype or Flash
> Player. This
> happens both using the GUI and CLI.
> See the following two attempts (I removed useless parts):
>
> [root@squarz yum.repos.d]# yum install "K Desktop
> Environment"
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> No Match for argument: K Desktop Environment
> No package K Desktop Environment available.
> Nothing to do
> [root@squarz yum.repos.d]#
>
> -------
>
> [root@squarz yum.repos.d]# yum groupinstall "KDE (K
> Desktop Environment)"
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Group Process
>
> [...]
>
> Transaction Summary
> ================================================================================
> Install 118 Package(s)
> Update 6 Package(s)
> Remove 0 Package(s)
>
> Total size: 306 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
>
>
> Package kdelibs-common-4.2.2-12.fc11.x86_64.rpm is not
> signed
> [root@squarz yum.repos.d]#
>
>
>
> Most probably I do something wrong, but I'd really like
> to know what!
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Enrico Accenti
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Enrico,
Can't remember from the top of my head a trick to skip gpg-signatures. In Fedora rawhide the gpgcheck should be set to 0. You can become su - or use
$ su -c 'vi /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo
and remove the 1 and make it a zero
[root@localhost yum.repos.d]# cat fedora-rawhide.repo
# These packages are untested and still under development. This
# repository is used for development of new releases.
#
# This repository can see significant daily turnover and major
# functionality changes which cause unexpected problems with other
# development packages. Please use these packages if you want to work
# with the Fedora developers by testing these new development packages.
#
# fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx is available as a discussion forum for
# testing and troubleshooting for development packages in conjunction
# with new test releases.
#
# More information is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing
#
# Reproducible and reportable issues should be filed at
# http://bugzilla.redhat.com/.
#
# Product: Fedora
# Version: rawhide
[rawhide]
name=Fedora - Rawhide - Developmental packages for the next Fedora release
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/$basearch/os/
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-$basearch file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
[rawhide-debuginfo]
name=Fedora - Rawhide - Debug
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/$basearch/debug/
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhide-debug&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-$basearch file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
.....
That should get KDE installed. Make it a zero and save the file, try to install KDE again. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Antonio
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:07:09 -0700
From: Rob Healey <robhealey1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: rhythmbox
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Greetings:
I have F11 fully updated and all of gstreamer, totem, xine, xmms files are
installed...
When I try to import an ogg file, it goes into the import errors instead.
Is there a known problem with this or is it just me?
Sincerely,
Rob G. Healey
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:36:19 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F11 Preview - First impressions
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On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:53 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Can't remember from the top of my head a trick to skip gpg-signatures.
RTFM
yum --nogpg ...
poc
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:10:05 -0400
From: Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: rhythmbox
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On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 19:07 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> When I try to import an ogg file, it goes into the import errors
> instead. Is there a known problem with this or is it just me?
What does file say about it?
I am sorry, but I am not sure what you mean??? If you mean file properties, then here it is:
Ogg Audio (audio/ogg)
4.0 Mb
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