> > consolekit for one > thanks, we have many *kit things, and many of them are not well documented consolekit does not even have a page in Wikipedia a friend of mine installed some framebuffer-based login manager called qingy http://qingy.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php and he had several permission problems like PA does not have permission to play sound, I guess they are because qingy does not know consolekit but how consolekit is related to mapping numpad keys ? > ... , also top posting isn't good etiquette regarding violating your etiquette Hey! come on, I said please! and I don't follow any etiquette (good nor bad) if it's polite, calm, and a good manner then it's good because some rationals not because it's with accordance to someone's etiquette according to our good manners giving a public advice is next to an insult and only humble people accept it, Usually people would appreciate it if you tell advice them in a private message and I'm going to tell you why telling, people tend to have pride and the pride could prevent them from accepting the good advice so telling an advice in public is like "I don't want him to accept the advice, I know he won't, I just want to embarrass him before the public" BTW: in gmail they appear as "--show quoted text" and it puts the cursor in top I'm waiting the rationals in a PM -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list