one of my goals with f11 is to explore, as completely as possible, the varieties of virtualization available, and start documenting them for a possible virt seminar later this year. at the moment, my laptops aren't adequate. one is merely 32-bit with PAE, while the others are 64-bit AMD but without the AMD-V virtualization extensions; hence, no possibility of experimenting with KVM (right?) to that end, i just wanted to clarify what would be an adequate system that would allow me to configure and test all manner of available virt solutions. i don't need wicked cool graphics or blinding disk speed, so here's a possibility: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4006371&sku=S445-M1626&srkey=m-1626 quite simply, given an AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile TL-60 2.0GHz, i'm assuming that that processor comes with the AMD-V virtualization extensions since that's what it suggests here: http://www.chiplist.com/ChipList2/chiplist_display_section.php?id=2231&page_number=&chiplist_version_major=&chiplist_version_minor=&chiplist_version_revision=&chiplist_version_extension=&chiplist_version_release_date=&chapter_number=0§ion_number=0&subsection_number=0¶graph_number=0&view_mode=tree2a&expansion=2 but sometimes, the online docs can be inaccurate. in short, any guidance on whether this is an acceptable system for what i want to do? would it have any crippling weaknesses in terms of virtualization? or, if you're in canada, i'm open to alternatives for midrange laptops that would accomplish the same thing, without breaking the bank. thanks for any feedback. rday p.s. is there, in fact, a separate mailing list for discussion of virtualization on fedora for non-experts? that would be *so* cool. -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA ======================================================================== -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list