On 3/5/2009 12:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, David wrote: >> The way the update works is that *all*, you said 1500, packages >> would be downloaded, then installed, and then the cleanup would >> begin. That would take a lot of disk space with the potential to >> fail at any stage. > that's probably why, after updating *only* rpm* and yum, the first > thing i did was install the downloadonly plugin, then "yum update > --downloadonly", wait ... wait ... wait ... then burn all those > packages to DVD before going any further. just to save time the next > time. > oh, and i set "keepcache=1". just playing it safe. A good idea there. That will avoid most of the 'downloading again' should things go south. An 'update' in a few days would only be recent changes. It is not uncommon for there to be 50, or so, packages a day. It all depends on how much of what you have installed. >> For the 64bit you would get *all* of the i386 now i586 packages >> install and all of the 64bit packages that have changed. And Rawhide >> changes a lot every day. > i understand that. it still brings us back to the same issue -- > should i *expect* "yum update" to just work, even with rawhide? as > in, should i expect it not to totally hose my system to the point > where i have to re-install from scratch? I would. I have, as a time with nothing to do thing, installed a release. Updated it to current. And then 'changed' it to Rawhide and updated it then. And I had not problems. >> Someone posted a script a while back, might have been here, that was >> supposed to help someone with a disk space problem by doing the update a >> little at a time. IIRC it was for a release upgrade but I don't see why >> it would not work here. > i have buckets of disk space -- i accepted the default disk > partitioning so i have one honking big root filesystem (>80G). disk > space is not an issue. You had said 'laptop' and they are noted to not have large harddrives. It sounds as if you will not have that problem. >> And I would do this in level 3 and not in the GUI level 5. Less >> things to go wrong that way. >> You do know how to get to level three? > yes, dear ... i've done it a time or two in my day. :-) Sorry. Did not mean to be condescending. ;-) I have seen many 'experts' that only thought that they were experts. Many who were great with a GUI to look at and lost at the CLI. There was a thread a while back that had a 'many years of experience' guy that could not maintain his network because he could not log into the GUI as root. He could have. If he had that much experience. :-) > rday > -- > p.s. still waiting for suggestions as to what to do first if anyone > wants to see the current state of the systems before i bork them > totally. or i'll just start things rolling and you'll hear the angry > shrieking at some point later this afternoon. I don't know about the bork part. I really do believe that most 'problems' are self inflicted. Third party site packages is a big one. Odd hardware is another big one. By 'odd' I mean not well supported. Good luck. -- David -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
