yes, i'm sure i'm about to embarrass myself here but i just checked some directory perms created while root and they display as drwxr-xr-x. ^ ???? what's that period? i've never seen that before. or have i just not been paying attention? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA ======================================================================== -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list