Thank you for the heads up, not sure where I borked it but it's been
corrected. I've attached the log.
Edward (TK009)
Brennan Ashton wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM, TK009 <john.brown009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Feb-17
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Feb-10>
Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page.
It would appear that the minutes never made it up on the wiki. Does
someone have the IRC log?
{|
|- id="tFeb 17 07:01:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | John5342
| style="color: #407a40" | i am here but probably not taking part.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:01:33|Feb 17 07:01]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:01:38"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | gflargle
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:01:38|Feb 17 07:01]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:01:49"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:01:49|Feb 17 07:01]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:01:56"
| colspan="2" | *adamw issues the customary West Coast Meeting Schedule Curse
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:01:56|Feb 17 07:01]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:02:07"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | anythink you want said in the meeting john?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:02:07|Feb 17 07:02]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:02:13"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | lol
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:02:13|Feb 17 07:02]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:02:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | nice and early for you adam
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:02:22|Feb 17 07:02]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:02:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | John5342
| style="color: #407a40" | not as such. am currently in hospital getting over meningitis so just not very with it
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:02:38|Feb 17 07:02]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:02:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | sorry to hear that, get better brother
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:02:54|Feb 17 07:02]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:03:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | John5342
| style="color: #407a40" | am apparently over the worst so should be back proper next week
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:03:21|Feb 17 07:03]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:03:23"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | get well soon john
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:03:23|Feb 17 07:03]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:03:25"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | where is mcepl I know he was around
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:03:25|Feb 17 07:03]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:03:43"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: wakey wakey
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:03:43|Feb 17 07:03]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:04:45"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | ok well I guess we get started
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:04:45|Feb 17 07:04]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:04:57"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | OK
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:04:57|Feb 17 07:04]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:03"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | oh how about hyee
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:03|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | sorry, call of nature, back in 3
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:06|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:12"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I know he wanted to be here as well
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:12|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:27"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | here..I'm new
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:27|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | welcome
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:44|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:05:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | John5342
| style="color: #407a40" | hyee: welcoe to the group then
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:05:48|Feb 17 07:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:06:14"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | thanks...I'm axious to get dirty
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:06:14|Feb 17 07:06]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:07:01"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | the only thing from last weeks meeting is the change to the component list, well that and the continued talk on goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:07:01|Feb 17 07:07]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:07:50"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we were to follow up that meeting in the mailing list, that didn't really happen though
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:07:50|Feb 17 07:07]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:07:51"
| colspan="2" | *jds2001 here
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:07:51|Feb 17 07:07]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:07:58"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | welcome brother =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:07:58|Feb 17 07:07]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:08:50"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | back
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:08:50|Feb 17 07:08]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:08:55"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: hi, welcome :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:08:55|Feb 17 07:08]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:08:57"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | did anyone have thoughts on the goals for this development cycle? wb adam
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:08:57|Feb 17 07:08]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:09:30"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | nothing further than last week: keep it simple and pick the things already
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:09:30|Feb 17 07:09]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:09:57"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | sorry where are theses goals published
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:09:57|Feb 17 07:09]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:05"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:05|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:23"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:23|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:27"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | well in an email, not really published
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:27|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:35"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that isnt up to date
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:35|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:48"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | ops.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:48|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:10:56"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: they haven't been agreed yet. they've been kicked about for like three weeks...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:10:56|Feb 17 07:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:11:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | i figure when we can actually agree on what they are, they'll be put on the wiki :/
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:11:15|Feb 17 07:11]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:11:43"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | ok..I see them...is there more current updates
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:11:43|Feb 17 07:11]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:11:50"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | the goal I purposed last week was, set a goal to triage x numbers of bugs against a component from the new list
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:11:50|Feb 17 07:11]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:12:40"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | comphappy added to that, saying he felt we should stabilize the NEW bug count first
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:12:40|Feb 17 07:12]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:12:45"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | are these goals overall or for just a partiular release
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:12:45|Feb 17 07:12]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:12:57"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: that's not defined, it can be part of the discussion
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:12:57|Feb 17 07:12]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:13:28"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | if you have any idea's hyee this is the place for them
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:13:28|Feb 17 07:13]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:13:50"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | I have not really look at the scope as I'm still trying to get a handle on the scope
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:13:50|Feb 17 07:13]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:14:05"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I know the feeling =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:14:05|Feb 17 07:14]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:14:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | it doesn't seem like enough people are here to sensibly set the goals :\
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:14:18|Feb 17 07:14]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:14:37"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | how many folks do we have doing this?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:14:37|Feb 17 07:14]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:14:50"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | dont know that we really know.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:14:50|Feb 17 07:14]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:15:30"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: i'm fairly new too (though I'm working for RH). so far I've seen about 3-4 people actively doing bugzapping stuff.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:15:30|Feb 17 07:15]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:15:39"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: so we definitely need more. =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:15:39|Feb 17 07:15]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:15:56"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | adamw: how did this work in MDV?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:15:56|Feb 17 07:15]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:15:59"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | let's have a 'welcome hyee and make him work' session in -bugzappers after this
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:15:59|Feb 17 07:15]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:05"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | let's learn from experience here :D
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:05|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:07"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | for now i guess we should keep the meeting on track
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:07|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:12"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | yikes...are we going 10 knots against a 100 knot headwind or something else
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:12|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | jds2001: heh. sorry to disappoint you: equally badly =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:15|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:32"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | jds2001: MDV had about 3 active triagers. now I'm gone, 2. :P
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:32|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:33"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | heh
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:33|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:16:53"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | that ok..I just need to know if it's bigger than a breadbox...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:16:53|Feb 17 07:16]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:17:05"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: mostly people are running to stand still in their chosen areas (e.g. fcami does xorg)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:17:05|Feb 17 07:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:17:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: overall I'm not sure what's happening, which is part of why comphappy (who isn't here right now) is writing a neat system that'll do stats for us
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:17:42|Feb 17 07:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:17:54"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | well it looks like I have an opportunity to really get dirty
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:17:54|Feb 17 07:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:17:59"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: for sure :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:17:59|Feb 17 07:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:18:01"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hyee: oh yes :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:18:01|Feb 17 07:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:18:13"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | it is hard to ask more of people that are already contributing, but that is what we are doing
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:18:13|Feb 17 07:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:18:29"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | asking to go a step further
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:18:29|Feb 17 07:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:18:51"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: there are active people who aren't here this morning - poelcat (who's sort of the bugzappers group leader), fcami for e.g.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:18:51|Feb 17 07:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:06"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | jds2001 is the bugzapper leader
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:06|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:08"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:08|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:18"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | well, i founded it, I guess :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:18|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:20"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | ok..where can I start...I'm new to this..but having being doing QA professionally for at least 10 years
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:20|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:33"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | awesome.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:33|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:38"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | jds2001: you're leader emeritus ;)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:38|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:53"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | so you know what makes a bug actionable to a developer.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:53|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:19:56"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | as i said...can we get through the meeting topics first?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:19:56|Feb 17 07:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:20:01"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | sure.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:20:01|Feb 17 07:20]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:20:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | tk009: what's next?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:20:06|Feb 17 07:20]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:20:27"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | have we decided to move past the goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:20:27|Feb 17 07:20]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:21:26"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | guess so
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:21:26|Feb 17 07:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:21:44"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | you mention someone is doing stats..what's the bug trend look like
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:21:44|Feb 17 07:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:21:58"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I feeling is we shouldnt let any more time slip on finding our goals as a team or individually
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:21:58|Feb 17 07:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:04"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | that might give us a clue how we should look at the goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:04|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:09"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:09|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:26"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | compahppy suggested we need to stabilize the NEW bug count
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:26|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:38"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | that would make sense to me as an initial short-term target
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:38|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:39"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | fro what I know...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:39|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:58"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | how do we stablize the bug count...but setting the bar higher??
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:58|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:22:59"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we cant see those numbers
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:22:59|Feb 17 07:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:23:06"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | only RH people can
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:23:06|Feb 17 07:23]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:23:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: btw, what 'stabilising' would mean is, having at least as many bugs triaged as are filed (they come in 'new', they go out 'assigned')
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:23:15|Feb 17 07:23]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:23:34"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I think it's a good idea as well
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:23:34|Feb 17 07:23]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:23:49"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | comphappy: yaay, just the dude
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:23:49|Feb 17 07:23]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:09"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | that first pass look may need folks with more knowledge and expereince than me
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:09|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:26"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | adamw: what did I break this time
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:26|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | hehe
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:31|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:40"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | comphappy: =) nothing, jut we'd been talking about your metrics
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:40|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:44"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | yaay, mcepl's here too
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:44|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:24:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we were waiting for you and you grand plan =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:24:44|Feb 17 07:24]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:25:02"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | comphappy, mcepl - we were talking about goals and trying to set the damn things this time - you guys have any input into that?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:25:02|Feb 17 07:25]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:25:39"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | oh, well I just put a 120lbs robot in the mail that has been all my time for the last 6 weeks, so now my life can return to fedora
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:25:39|Feb 17 07:25]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:25:51"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | all: I am sorry -- my computer crashed hard
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:25:51|Feb 17 07:25]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:25:54"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | I can only be on for about 5min
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:25:54|Feb 17 07:25]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:26:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | comphappy: can you make another one to triage bugs? =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:26:01|Feb 17 07:26]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:26:30"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | comphappy: what is the status of GM packaging?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:26:30|Feb 17 07:26]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:26:51"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | mcepl: I hit a wall with the local dir part which is key
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:26:51|Feb 17 07:26]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | comphappy: and since you're going to have to leave, can we get your vote on the signatures-for-triagers thing?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:01|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:02"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | I am waiting for some help from upstream on that
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:02|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:10"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | +1
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:10|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | ok, thanks.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:20|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that was next after goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:31|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:34"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | mcepl: that could be added to the GM script ?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:34|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:27:50"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | a "sign" button
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:27:50|Feb 17 07:27]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:28:23"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | tk009: we can see pretty much whatever numbers we need.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:28:23|Feb 17 07:28]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:28:35"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: any input on goals? we were discussing comphappy's suggestion of first aiming simply to stabilize the NEW count.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:28:35|Feb 17 07:28]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:28:44"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | sorry, I am apparently really behind -- what's signatures-for-triagers?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:28:44|Feb 17 07:28]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:03"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we will go back to it mcepl
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:03|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:07"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we got a bit ahead
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:07|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:15"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we are still on goals
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:15|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:16"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | please
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:16|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | sorry, just wanted to make sure we got comphappy's vote before he had to leave.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:18|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:31"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | I was thinking of focusing on our core components though with the NEW count stabilization
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:31|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:42"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | +1
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:42|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:49"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | the whole shabang was a little of a disaster last time
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:49|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:29:54"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | yep, works for me
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:29:54|Feb 17 07:29]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:30:14"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | how do we best go about implementing that
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:30:14|Feb 17 07:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:30:16"
| colspan="2" | *comphappy makes a note to figure out how to track that in triage web
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:30:16|Feb 17 07:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:30:21"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | hehe
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:30:21|Feb 17 07:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:30:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | yes and tracking is important
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:30:31|Feb 17 07:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:30:53"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | for now a bz report can give you a now figure for that
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:30:53|Feb 17 07:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:31:08"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | it would be possible to do it in the bugzilla report interface if comphappy moves to Guatemala and takes the code with him.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:31:08|Feb 17 07:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:31:16"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | bit icky, but you can do it.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:31:16|Feb 17 07:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:31:22"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | so that shouldn't be a problem.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:31:22|Feb 17 07:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:31:51"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | would have to be scripted still to run through the list of comp i think
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:31:51|Feb 17 07:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:07"
| colspan="2" | *comphappy is running behind, sorry, see you all later
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:07|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:13"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | any idea on how many new bugs are reported per day?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:13|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:16"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | be well brother
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:16|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:21"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | cya comp
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:21|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:39"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | for all components, if the random day I looked at this last week is accurate, ± 100
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:39|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:32:43"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | not sure for core components
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:32:43|Feb 17 07:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:33:30"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | jds2001
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | probably ~90 :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:33:30|Feb 17 07:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:33:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | ok, bit less - between 15th and 16th, 67 bugs were created
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:33:36|Feb 17 07:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:33:39"
| colspan="2" | *jds2001 just guessing.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:33:39|Feb 17 07:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:33:40"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | (you can do this with an advanced search)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:33:40|Feb 17 07:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:33:47"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | given our numbers can we meet that goal?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:33:47|Feb 17 07:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:34:22"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | i'd say that would be about 1-2hrs work per person per day, with current numbers...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:34:22|Feb 17 07:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:34:41"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | so yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:34:41|Feb 17 07:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:34:44"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:34:44|Feb 17 07:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:34:46"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | oh, 5 of those were Review Requests, which I don't think need triaging.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:34:46|Feb 17 07:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:34:48"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | comphappy:points to triage metrics http://www.brennanashton.com/triageweb/components you can take a look at one week of data there for any comp
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:34:48|Feb 17 07:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:35:11"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | actually, about 10.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:35:11|Feb 17 07:35]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:35:48"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | so about 10 bugs per member per day
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:35:48|Feb 17 07:35]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:08"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | if everyone who shows up here or on the list gets to doing some active triaging, yep.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:08|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:10"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | triageweb is in realtime? or only an example?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:10|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:12"
| colspan="2" | *adamw hides behind a rock
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:12|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | my triage suckage would be a bit pressed to do that
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:24|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:36"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | its real data but for example for now
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:36|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:48"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | iralyy, it is still very alpha but will update every day when it goes a bit more live
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:48|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:36:57"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | comphappy
| style="color: #4b904b" | that was a sample of one week
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:36:57|Feb 17 07:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:37:11"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | ok
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:37:11|Feb 17 07:37]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:17"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | still, I think this shows it's a reasonable goal to shoot for...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:17|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | ok I think we have a goal to shoot for here, stabilize new bug count
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:22|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:34"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | yaay.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:34|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | are we agreed on this goal?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:38|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:45"
| colspan="2" | *adamw raises hand
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:45|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:38:58"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | ok..what do I know
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:38:58|Feb 17 07:38]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:39:26"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | iarlyy, mcepl?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:39:26|Feb 17 07:39]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:39:26"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | +1
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:39:26|Feb 17 07:39]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:39:31"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | +1
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:39:31|Feb 17 07:39]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:39:48"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | should have a way to identify that a bugzapper taking actions on a bug
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:39:48|Feb 17 07:39]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:40:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that is next
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:40:00|Feb 17 07:40]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:40:03"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | ;)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:40:03|Feb 17 07:40]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:40:05"
! style="background-color: #488888" | iarlyy
| style="color: #488888" | ah ok. :D
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:40:05|Feb 17 07:40]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:41:37"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | this goal needs more but this is a good start
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:41:37|Feb 17 07:41]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:42:27"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | ok lets move to bug signatures for bugzilla
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:42:27|Feb 17 07:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:42:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we can continue the goals talk in the list and irc
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:42:38|Feb 17 07:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:43:09"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hi kevin
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:43:09|Feb 17 07:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:43:23"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | kev is always early =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:43:23|Feb 17 07:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:43:32"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | let's make him triage =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:43:32|Feb 17 07:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:43:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | ok, signatures!
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:43:36|Feb 17 07:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:43:37"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | done already
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:43:37|Feb 17 07:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:44:34"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | never having done a GM script I dont know how hard it is or how long to implement
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:44:34|Feb 17 07:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:45:32"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | shall we explain signatures again for the lost?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:45:32|Feb 17 07:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:45:51"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | yes please if you wont dam
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:45:51|Feb 17 07:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:45:58"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I type to damn slow
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:45:58|Feb 17 07:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:46:33"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | let me try that again, please explain adam
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:46:33|Feb 17 07:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | OK
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:01|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:05"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | and now mcepl's back :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:05|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:25"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | signatures is my proposal: it's simply that we have a text signature for bugzappers that is used whenever we work on a bug
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:25|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:32"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | .yeah, Rawhide is fun ;-)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:32|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:44"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | it would just say something like "Fedora Bugzappers group" with a link to the Wiki space
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:44|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:47:49"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: i'm on rawhide, works fine here ;)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:47:49|Feb 17 07:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:48:16"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | point of this is a) makes it obvious when bugzappers are working on a bug, b) explains to reporters that we're not the developers, c) raises visibility of the group
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:48:16|Feb 17 07:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:48:17"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | OK, combination of Rawhide, vpnc, and couple of other ingredients makes my life busy ;-)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:48:17|Feb 17 07:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:48:28"
| colspan="2" | *adamw stabs vpnc in the eye
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:48:28|Feb 17 07:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:48:33"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I thought the wording was good and it lets everyone know who the triagers are
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:48:33|Feb 17 07:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:48:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | so, anyone have comments or voting on the proposal?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:48:42|Feb 17 07:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:04"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | those that dont want to use can not install the GM script
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:04|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:07"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | adamw: -1 or at least needs more talk -- let me explain
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:07|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | OK
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:15|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:17"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | oh, it is NOT mandatory, right?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:17|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:30"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | er. didn't specify that either way.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:30|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:32"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | correct
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:32|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:40"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | I know that many developers are pissed off from needless comments (and you will be too -- believe me)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:40|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:49:43"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we have to let people make that choice
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:49:43|Feb 17 07:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:50:01"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | explain please mcepl
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:50:01|Feb 17 07:50]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:50:53"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that is 2 -1's by the way
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:50:53|Feb 17 07:50]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:51:02"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | there was one in the list as well
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:51:02|Feb 17 07:51]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:51:10"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | moreover, when you make comment it is obvious who made it; maybe ask bugzilla maintainers to give you something to the name, so that it will write "Comment #5 From Matej Cepl <Fedora bug triager> <date>".
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:51:10|Feb 17 07:51]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:51:33"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | which cannot be done by GM, but it should be possible to do it with cooperation from bugzilla folks.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:51:33|Feb 17 07:51]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:51:53"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | right now mcepl...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:51:53|Feb 17 07:51]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:52:06"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | if I triage a bug no one knows who tk009 is
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:52:06|Feb 17 07:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:52:27"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | you they know =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:52:27|Feb 17 07:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:52:31"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | ... when would signature be added?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:52:31|Feb 17 07:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:52:49"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | (infamous vigilant on RH bugzilla Matej Cepl ;-))
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:52:49|Feb 17 07:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:52:50"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: that would work, but it's a bit subtle - it can quite easily be missed.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:52:50|Feb 17 07:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:53:17"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | well, it should be there just for those who are interested in such things
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:53:17|Feb 17 07:53]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:53:27"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: i'm confused as to exactly what your objection is. this doesn't add anything to the volume of comments left by triagers. all it does is add a couple of lines to each comment to clarify who the person is...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:53:27|Feb 17 07:53]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:53:47"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: how do I know if I'm going to be interested or not? =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:53:47|Feb 17 07:53]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:53:56"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | Oh, OK -- so when I switch bug from NEW to ASSIGNED or clear needinfo bit, nothing would be added?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:53:56|Feb 17 07:53]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:54:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | again, that's an implementation detail, but we could do it that way, certainly
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:54:20|Feb 17 07:54]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:54:35"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | and it would probably work fine, thinking about it
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:54:35|Feb 17 07:54]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:54:51"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | the proposal is basically 'when leaving a comment, have a signature on it'
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:54:51|Feb 17 07:54]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:55:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I thought of it as just an addition to our comments
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:55:24|Feb 17 07:55]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:55:35"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | i'm happy with agreeing not to add a comment where you otherwise wouldn't, that's fine.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:55:35|Feb 17 07:55]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:55:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | saying we commented and we are a triager
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:55:38|Feb 17 07:55]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:55:49"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | then we could just edit strings in GM scripts plus add a button "add signature to the comment box" ... sure, I can do that.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:55:49|Feb 17 07:55]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:56:04"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that is all we are doing here =)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:56:04|Feb 17 07:56]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:56:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | could the gm script just do it automatically when sending a comment, or is that unworkable?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:56:06|Feb 17 07:56]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:56:27"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | no, because I don't how to distinguish ... err, actually I know ... yes, I can do it.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:56:27|Feb 17 07:56]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:56:29"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | (that could be optional...i dunno if gm is that sophisticated though)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:56:29|Feb 17 07:56]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:56:49"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | still, though, seems like we can basically do it well enough to work. OK :) thanks for that...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:56:49|Feb 17 07:56]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:57:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | ok we are decided then
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:57:00|Feb 17 07:57]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:57:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | tk009: what was the -1 on the list? let me look that up...
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:57:20|Feb 17 07:57]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:57:50"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | mcepl
| style="color: #4d4d93" | if the length of text in the comment box is >0, then this text would be appended to the end of the comment. Is that good?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:57:50|Feb 17 07:57]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:57:53"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | i don't see one - rahul made a *further* suggestion, but it wasn't a -1
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:57:53|Feb 17 07:57]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:08"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | we are about out of time today, we should continue on bugzappers and of course o the list.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:08|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:18"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | mcepl: works for me, yep. we may want to make it optional if some people might not want to sign all of their comments, or if it can't be made optional, not do it and just rely on a manual button
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:18|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:20"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | well his issue is mine as well
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:20|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:22"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | but we can hash that out on the list.
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:22|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:29"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | I use so many names none match up
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:29|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:58:57"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: still around?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:58:57|Feb 17 07:58]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:02"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | yep
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:02|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | should we continue in bugzappers
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:11|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:14"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | adamw
| style="color: #42427e" | hyee: OK - if you pop into #fedora-bugzappers , we can all help you get started :)
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:14|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:22|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:26"
! style="background-color: #854685" | hyee
| style="color: #854685" | ok
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:26|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 07:59:41"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | thank you everyone for coming today, anything before we close?
|| [[#tFeb 17 07:59:41|Feb 17 07:59]]
|- id="tFeb 17 08:00:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | tk009
| style="color: #818144" | that's a wrap then, see you in bugzappers
|| [[#tFeb 17 08:00:24|Feb 17 08:00]]
|}
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