fedora QA meeting log for Jan 21

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Hi folks,

There's a log of today's (long and involved - but good) Fedora QA
meeting available here:
http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/fedora-qa/fedora-qa-20090121.log.html

Quick summary of the log:

= F11Alpha status = 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=F11Alpha
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Alpha_Install_Test_Results
* Final deadline for new builds: 2300UTC (6pm US Eastern) Jan. 22.
* ppc seems broken - if there's no forward movement on this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=480842
then there will be *no PPC images for alpha*.
  * We'll try to get it fixed ASAP in rawhide either way.


= Trac instance =
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/
Yes! We have a trac instance! We'll be using the ticketing system to
keep track of QA tasks. 

If there's something you need from QA - help writing test plans for
feature pages, for instance - you could file a ticket here.

= New main wiki page =
Jóhann (aka viking-ice) has created a new main wiki page for QA:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Draft/QA
We intend to replace http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA with that, real
soon now.


= QA Team guidelines = 
To make the QA team more organized, we're going to try to define a few
basic things:
* what it means to be in the QA group - expectations, etc.
* define policy for becoming a QA member/sponsor
* define the makeup of the QA board

Further, we've resolved a couple things to help with better
communication. These should be applicable to all groups, not just QA:

* any plans/proposals that come from "watercooler discussions" or other
offline/unofficial communication should clearly be marked as "DISCUSSION
DRAFT / PROPOSAL, NOT FINAL" 

* We will avoid making important decisions (like approving proposals)
without running them by the appropriate mailing list(s) first -
preferably at least a week beforehand.
  * In this case, QA business will go to fedora-test-list.


= Wiki guidelines = 
* We have a QA: namespace on the wiki, and test plans / cases / etc
should be gradually moved there.
* We need to establish naming guidelines for these things.
  * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/4
* We're going to create categories to apply to Feature pages:
  * QA Approved Feature Page
  * Features with incomplete Scope
  * Features with bad test plans
Better descriptions of these items should go to the relevant wiki page.

Hope that helps,

-w

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