Sven Lankes wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 01:06:58PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Maybe a small gui tool showing the latest testing-updates and allowing
to send (positive) bohdi-karma would encourage more people to actually
send the karma which in turn would encourage developers to use
updates-testing more.
First of all this falls on to testers...
Developers should spend their time developing.
Testers should spend their time testing that's what we are here for.
While I don't buy the black/white developer/tester distinction, I agree
that my email should have been sent to fedora-test-list.
Secondly a small bodhi voting gui does not cut it.
Testers need know what to test to ensure that the component behaves as
it should
so you need an application that...
A) Fetches the test case for a component and
B) Has the ability to log in and vote in bodhi.
Yeah - in an ideal world that would be needed.
But lets face it: There isn't a lot of positive karma given on bohdi
currently (corret me if I'm wrong - but that is my impression). Now if
everyone who has updates-testing active would give positive kama for an
update of an application that he/she actually uses this would be a big
win for the process. And this - in my view - does not mean "I have
tested it according to test-cases x,y,z" but it does mean "I have used
the application for what I usually use it for and it still does what it
used to do".
if we are going to end up with too many +1s too fast we can always
tune the automatic push at +3 accordingly.
I suppose I can add that to my TODO list since i'm going to developer
( and hopefully others as well ) the "Fedora-Bug-Reporting" application
Don't get me wrong here - having such an app available sounds sounds
like a very good idea but having testcases for all fedora packages
doesn't sound very likely - at least not within the next 25-30 releases
;)
If testers and maintainers join force it's doable in reasonably time frame
and if it would be mandatory for all new packages to provide test cases..
If it's expected to happen by the hands of few it's not.
We have had some discussion today about integrating it on rpm level
maintainer would just have an text section that could be perhaps fetched
by new rpm trigger
-qt package and for automated test cases an separated test packaged.
JBG
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