I've finally achieved glorious loud sound on my Asus N10JA3 netbook running Fedora 10 and XFCE - a struggle against enormous odds. 1) Add to /etc/modprobe.conf this line options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-dig There are other options that are valid for the hardware codec reported in /proc/asound/card0/codec#* : Codec: Realtek ALC662 rev1 but this one seems to work. 2) Deactivate pulseaudio by removing one package: rpm -e alsa-plugins-pulseaudio 3) Prevent xfce from autostarting pulseaudio by unchecking that item in the Settings Manager. 4) Permissions that are automatically set for /dev/snd/* prevent users from using the sound devices. I have been unable to find the "proper" way to undo this travesty, but a brute force solution works. Edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local to add chmod 666 /dev/snd/* /usr/bin/aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup3.wav 5) Reboot to a console login, with init level 3. Enjoy the gorgeous sound of startup3.wav when the system is ready for login (before *anyone* has logged in). 6) Run alsamixer. Observe many sliders for various functions. Slide them up to a higher setting. Exit alsamixer an run alsactl store to save the settings. 7) Run startxfce4 and observe that aplay now works there, too. Pulseaudio is a travesty and abomination. If I never hear of it again, it'll be too soon. Those who have inflicted these secret and ridiculous permission restrictions that block use of the sound system should be disbarred from the Project. Obstacles to easy use cannot make Fedora attractive to new users. -- David A. De Graaf DATIX, Inc. Hendersonville, NC dad@xxxxxxxx www.datix.us -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list