I have all the updates presented to me, I use YUMEX. I have however delved a little further and found the following : I have two users on the system, as we cannot any longer graphically log on as root I have one on the sudoers list and the other as a normal user. The normal user can perform graphical shutdown the sudoer user cannot. I removed the shutdown button applet for the sudoers user and when I tried to add it again, the applet was not available for selection. I have a workaround, logoff as the sudoer list and shutdown from the logon screen, so I guess I will delve further, its either something to do with sudoers or something in my Gnome configuration for the sudoer user. I guess the hurt we go through is why its called being on the cutting edge ! -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=296351&topic_id=62629&forum=12#forumpost296351 If you think, this is spam, please report this to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and/or blame spoffley@xxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list