laptop running rawhide, originally from KDE LiveCD useradd some-user very first KDE login has a desktop with: A transparent "Desktop" Folder View window Two (2) network systray apps - NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0, and KNetworkManager (but no tooltip or About to indicate) Two (2) power systray apps - KPowersave, and Battery Monitor It's entirely possible all the above was my own doing, and I'll research that possibility ... jerry -- "Years of Academy training... wasted!" - Buzz Lightyear -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list