Matthias Clasen writes: > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 10:28 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > As we've been testing GDM for accessibility support on Fedora 9, we > > continue to note the lack of audio support. This means that a screen > > reader user has no way to know when it's OK to login. > > > > There is no "beep" on backspace at the Login and Passwd entry. More > > seriously still: > > > > SoundOnLogin=true > > SoundOnLoginFile=[some].wav > > > > in /etc/gdm/custom.conf continues broken. > > > > Of course we're needing the additional benefit of starting Orca for TTS > > via Ctrl-s, Orca with braille via Ctrl-b, etc. I can't comment on > > anything other than sound myself, but will be happy to investigate the > > other gestures if that's desired. But, what should we expect for sound? > > > > What version are you trying out ? > Ray has been fixing the speech support in gdm; and I have had orca read > the user list to me, personally. Interesting. We ourselves have not gotten it to work on several machines here during the F-9 beta cycle. In fact, we've not gotten Ctrl-S gestures to start reading via Orca since F-7. In fact, we've not gotten Ctrl-S gestures to start reading via Orca since F-7. In fact, we've not gotten Ctrl-S gestures to start reading via Orca since F-7. In fact, we've not gotten Ctrl-S gestures to start reading via Orca since F-7. Our F-9 machines are all now running gdm-2.22.0-1.fc9. This includes both i386 and x86_64. Another problem for all of this, as I understand things, is pulseaudio which isn't available until AFTER a successful login. Thus, there's nothing to play sound, by default, even once SoundOnLogin is restored in GDM. If we disable pulseaudio, we still don't have SoundOnLogin from the newer GDM, of course. Hopefully, GDM will add that back. It's important for screen reader users, needless to say. On F-8, with pulseaudio disabled and running GDM-2.20, we do have SoundOnLogin. > > If you could compile a list of 'standard' keyboard shortcuts for a11y on > the login screen, that would be very useful, and we'll make sure to have > them implemented asap. I believe the following would be noncontroversial: Ctrl-S Start Orca with speech Ctrl-B Start Orca with braille Ctrl-M Start Orca with magnification However, we need to consider the wider range of a11y issues as has already been suggested. I support the suggestion to create a page for considering various dwell and aother alternate input approaches. Thanks for your prompt response on this. Janina > > > Thanks, Matthias > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@xxxxxxxx Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@xxxxxxxx Linux Foundation http://a11y.org -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
