Re: A Topic that needs to be discussed on next the QA meeting..

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Tomas Mraz wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 19:53 -0700, Andrew Farris wrote:
Had you even considered asking denyhosts to be a part of the base install and configured to start blocking hosts after 10 account failures, or when attempts at service account logins are made? Problem solved.. ssh still open.
Perhaps we should add pam_abl to default sshd PAM configuration with
some reasonable defaults on how many auth failures are allowed?

The benefit of denyhosts goes beyond that. A user can script an attempt at many different logins, trying one at a time, spreading them out over a period of several minutes, so that multiple auth failures are not triggered. What denyhosts provides is the larger picture of an external ip attempting multiple accounts or failing a single account multiple times. Its been very effective in reducing the ssh login attempts on my home machines which have ssh open to the internet (even though they are pub/priv keypair restricted they still get hammered with repeated login attempts and denyhosts picks that up and adds them to hosts.deny).

I would argue that blocking root from ssh logins by default would be smart. I would think a livecd install (almost always a desktop user) it should be blocked by the firewall by default. But seriously this rant is a bit over the top.
Unfortunately user accounts are set up in firstboot so disabling root
login in ssh by default is not possible.

Well, thats true, but firstboot could disable ssh for root once a user account is created (unless a checkbox was left enabled or something).. and you'd still get perfectly acceptable behavior for headless installs.

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