Updated kde4 on Rawhide. Noticed that minimized windows disappeared. They were not on the panel or available by alt-tab. Logged out and as the system was shutting down, the window manager closed and there were the processes still on the xserver. The shutdown continued to conclusion. Restarting and kde4 tried to bring up all the old processes (not all successfully). Tried to start firefox and it never came up. Then on shutdown, there it was on the xserver. What do I need to collect for bugzilla? Robert McBroom -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Strange-new-behavior-kde4-tp16048262p16048262.html Sent from the Fedora Test List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list