Downloaded F8RC3 32-bit and 64-bit DVD versions. My system is a HP 8510w laptop with 4GB RAM. On the first pass, BOTH fail to load stopping at the message: running /sbin/loader After a couple of reboots, BOTH get past this message and eventually you can complete the install. I also found that if you wait about 10 minutes (?!?) the installer eventually continues. On the first boot post-install, X tries to start but fails. The screen flashes for 1 second and then nothing. Eventually you get a default X background (grey pattern) and a big X cursor. On the first try with the 32-bit version, I thought the machine was totally dead and decided to power cycle the laptop at this point. Next boot, I found the file system had been so badly corrupted as to require a complete reinstall. On the 64-bit version, I found that a forced ctrl-alt-del eventually caused a graceful reboot. Next boot, the system started in1920X1200 resolution and completed most of the firstboot setup. The firewall application complained with cryptic error, but I verified that it took my custom changes later on. Once up and running (64-bit), the system refuses to recognize the wireless card at all. This DID work before out of the box with both F8T2 and a Post F8T3 rawhide version. I also got funny error messages with my ethernet adapter (SIOCCS Flags Input Output error - or something like that - in both cases). It was late when I saw this. I'll try it again when the next test install finishes. I'm presently trying the 32-bit install again. I'm pretty sure I'll find the same problems. They're pretty consistent between both versions. In the end I'll either run the 64-bit version (if I can get all my Firefox plugins to work) or I'll go back to the 32-bit PAE kernel so I can use the full 4GB in this machine. I'm not yet sure what to bugzilla in all of this yet, but I sure hope these aren't the final bits that become F8 next week... Cheers, Chris -- ====================== "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -- Former President Bill Clinton -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list