Selecting either the Add/Remove Software or Software Updater menu items results in the spinning cursor for a while and then it stops without any window opening. Executing pirut from a terminal has no output. Oops, after many minutes, an Add/Remove software window just opened. I managed to add a couple of packages. I can;t find kdegames anywhere in the software offering. yum install kdegames does work. Kdegames still doesn't include ksudoku, but ksudoku installs via yum. Gerry -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list