The good -------- Hey! It recognized my DVD drive this time, I didn't have to install from hard disk. Even more amazing, I turn on desktop effects, and for the first time ever, they have worked with every application I've tried so far (previously about half the apps I'd start would have their titlebar wind up underneath the panel, making them hard to move :-). Dependency checking on packages is indeed faster, I'd now call it merely annoying rather than glacial :-). Most amazing of all (knock on wood), so far xorg bugs 2859 and/or 8790 have not cropped up. No flickering on and off of the display (even with GL stuff which had the habit of triggering it previously). Needs to be up longer for me to be confident of this one though. The bad ------- I'm running updates, it finally finished downloading, and the first thing I see is a popup message that says: Unable to verify exiv2-0.14-1.fc7.x86_64 Details: Not installing key I click on apply updates again, and now I get a popup asking if I should import the key (did not see that the first time). Did it grab the $#@! focus away from my emacs while I was in the middle of typing something it interpreted as cancel when I wasn't even looking at the screen? If you are gonna have an app that runs forever like the updater does, the last thing on earth it should ever do is grab focus. By the time it wants input, people have forgotten it is even running. The IMSmap screensaver (I downloaded all the screensavers from extras to beat on the ATI driver) locks up the system for several minutes. I can move the cursor, but nothing else responds, not even Ctrl-Alt-F1. As I was reaching for the reset button after trying lots of stuff, the Ctrl-Atl-F1 finally happened, so I went ahead and logged in and typed "reboot" to get back here into FC6. Will you for God's sake figure out what category the "terminal" application belongs in and leave it there! Every single release I have to play "find the terminal" (better yet, put it in the panel by default - that's the first thing I always do :-). Did you pickup this habit from Microsoft, who also moves the "console" entry around in every single Windows release? The ugly -------- The 3 icons for office apps that show up in the gnome panel (word processor, presentation, spreadsheet) are, without a doubt, the ugliest icons I have ever seen. They are garish colors that clash with everything else I see on the screen when I first login, and they look like they are drunk and about to fall over. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list