Terry Polzin wrote: > On Monday 05 March 2007 09:08, Jesse Keating wrote: >> On Monday 05 March 2007 05:36:13 Terry Polzin wrote: >>> I install F7T2 specifically selecting no GNOME. What happens when I log >>> in GNOME starts? I try to remove GNOME via yum group remove and it >>> wants to remove openoffice and other things I want. >> There are currently some packages that require part of the gnome stack, >> things in gtk, things that use gnome features, etc.. Some of these are >> fairly low level, like firstboot, or system-config-*. I think one of the >> anaconda logs shows what things are being brought into your package list >> and why, but I can't recall which one. > Here's the laundry list of things it wants to remove if I try to run 'yum > groupremove " GNOME Desktop Environment" > > ============================================================================= > Package Arch Version Repository Size > ============================================================================= > Removing: > at-spi i386 1.17.0-1.fc7 installed 901 k > control-center i386 1:2.17.91-2.fc7 installed 8.2 M > desktop-printing i386 0.20-3.fc7 installed 378 k > dvd+rw-tools i386 7.0-2.fc7 installed 258 k > fast-user-switch-applet i386 2.17.3-3.fc7 installed 1.6 M > gnome-media i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 5.4 M > gnome-panel i386 2.17.91-6.fc7 installed 11 M > gnome-session i386 2.17.91-2.fc7 installed 1.4 M > gnome-volume-manager i386 2.17.0-4.fc7 installed 2.1 M > gthumb i386 2.9.1-1.fc7 installed 6.0 M > gtk2-engines i386 2.9.3-2.fc7 installed 1.0 M > im-chooser i386 0.3.4-1.fc7 installed 202 k > metacity i386 2.17.5-1.fc7 installed 9.9 M > nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.17.7-1.fc7 installed 1.8 M > notification-daemon i386 0.3.6-1.fc7 installed 113 k > Removing for dependencies: > ImageMagick i386 6.2.8.0-3.fc6.1 installed 11 M > bluez-gnome i386 0.6-1.fc7 installed 67 k > bluez-utils i386 3.9-1.fc7 installed 923 k > echo-icon-theme noarch 0.2-1.20070206wiki.fc7 installed 942 k > eel2 i386 2.17.90-1.fc7 installed 1.1 M > evolution-data-server i386 1.9.91-1.fc7 installed 9.8 M > fedora-logos noarch 6.0.93-1.fc7 installed 5.9 M > firefox i386 2.0.0.1-5.fc7 installed 38 M > firstboot noarch 1.4.30-2.fc7 installed 960 k > gaim i386 2:2.0.0-0.30.beta6.fc7 installed 18 M > gdm i386 1:2.17.6-4.fc7 installed 11 M > gimp i386 2:2.2.13-1.fc6 installed 25 M > gimp-help noarch 2-0.1.0.11.fc7 installed 84 M > glabels i386 2.0.4-5.fc6 installed 2.2 M > gnome-desktop i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 1.9 M > gnome-mount i386 0.5-3.fc7 installed 228 k > gnome-python2 i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 595 k > gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 168 k > gnome-python2-canvas i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 48 k > gnome-python2-extras i386 2.14.2-9.fc7 installed 62 k > gnome-python2-gconf i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 74 k > gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 159 k > gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 i386 2.14.2-9.fc7 installed 17 k > gnome-vfs2 i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 4.7 M > grub i386 0.97-13 installed 1.0 M > gstreamer-plugins-base i386 0.10.11-1.fc7 installed 1.6 M > gstreamer-plugins-good i386 0.10.5-5.fc7 installed 1.5 M > gtkhtml2 i386 2.11.0-3 installed 430 k > k3b i386 1.0.0-0.rc6.1.fc7 installed 24 M > kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 12 M > kdeartwork i386 3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 7.4 M > kdebase i386 6:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 53 M > kdegames i386 6:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 17 M > kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 18 M > kdelibs i386 6:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 49 M > kdemultimedia i386 6:3.5.6-2.fc7 installed 18 M > kdenetwork i386 7:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 29 M > kdepim i386 6:3.5.6-2.fc7 installed 51 M > kdeutils i386 6:3.5.6-1.fc7 installed 9.3 M > kdnssd-avahi i386 0.1.3-0.1.20060713svn.fc6 installed 114 k > libbonoboui i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M > libgail-gnome i386 1.1.3-1.2.1 installed 60 k > libgnome i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 3.5 M > libgnomekbd i386 2.17.2-2.fc7 installed 171 k > libgnomeui i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 3.2 M > libnotify i386 0.4.3-2.fc7 installed 90 k > librsvg2 i386 2.16.1-1.fc7 installed 425 k > nautilus-extensions i386 2.17.91-1.fc7 installed 31 k > notify-python i386 0.1.0-4.fc7 installed 24 k > openoffice.org-base i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 2.2 M > openoffice.org-calc i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 16 M > openoffice.org-core i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 177 M > openoffice.org-draw i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 2.7 M > openoffice.org-graphicfilter i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 376 k > openoffice.org-impress i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 4.3 M > openoffice.org-math i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 3.2 M > openoffice.org-writer i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 6.3 M > openoffice.org-xsltfilter i386 1:2.2.0-8.1 installed 212 k > pirut noarch 1.3.2-1.fc7 installed 1.0 M > planner i386 0.14.2-4.fc7 installed 5.9 M > policycoreutils-gui i386 2.0.2-3.fc7 installed 310 k > redhat-artwork i386 5.0.10-1.fc7 installed 7.1 M > rhgb i386 0.17.1-1.fc7 installed 364 k > rhythmbox i386 0.9.7-11.fc7 installed 8.3 M > setroubleshoot noarch 1.9.1-1.fc7 installed 249 k > sound-juicer i386 2.16.3-1.fc7 installed 2.5 M > system-config-date noarch 1.8.11-1.fc7 installed 3.5 M > system-config-display noarch 1.0.48-1.fc7 installed 789 k > system-config-keyboard noarch 1.2.11-1.fc7 installed 193 k > system-config-kickstart noarch 2.7.2-1.fc7 installed 2.6 M > system-config-lvm noarch 1.0.18-1.2.FC6 installed 2.6 M > system-config-network noarch 1.3.96-1.fc6 installed 2.1 M > totem i386 2.17.92-2.fc7 installed 5.4 M > totem-mozplugin i386 2.17.92-2.fc7 installed 504 k > totem-plparser i386 2.17.92-2.fc7 installed 53 k > xsane-gimp i386 0.991-4.fc7 installed 617 k > > Transaction Summary > ============================================================================= > Install 0 Package(s) > Update 0 Package(s) > Remove 91 Package(s) > > > > Hell, it even wants to remove KDE! What's up with this? > I think what Jessie was trying to tell you is that you will not be able to use the "Group Remove" option of Yum because that will remove things that the listed programs require. No way around that, sorry to say. How did you select no Gnome? I assume it was where Anaconda allows you to specify packages no? Did you check the log in the /root directory? that may tell you if you installed the complete Gnome, which may be an excellent start for a Bug Report if Gnome was installed despite your telling it not to. I'm no expert here by a long shot, but it seem to me that if Anaconda installed Gnome when you said NO that that may be your problem and other than listing the Gnome Group and removing packages one at a time, checking that you are not removing needed dependencies (you don't really want to do THAT do you?). My suggestion is to bug report it with as much info as you can give it and live with it 'til F7T3 or T4 comes out. (hey it's only a month or so eh?) 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