Hello all After updating this morning, I checked the availability of orca with a yum list updates. For some reason Yum hung and 1/2 hour later it was still running with no progress being reported at the terminal. I was able to kill the process (holding my breath and crossing the fingers) by logging in as root at a tty and issuing the appropriate commands. Thought I was good to go until I performed the yum update of orca and though it did update, it immediately gave me 10 pages of garbage on the screen, followed by some error messages: rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from db->sync: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery I attempted to `rpm --rebuilddb` but received: rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv->open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - (-30977) I got similar errors with --initdb (as expected, but I had to try) I googled the error messages and got (as expected) a similar account on suse, but the suggestions offered, included the use of commands I am unfamiliar with. Any ideas of a safe way to get rpm and yum working again? Scott -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list