Michal Jaegermann wrote:
You mean as "the real thing" or as "provides"? semonkey packages
from RHEL provide a non-existent "mozilla = 37:1.8", just to make
sure that updates will happen, and I followed exactly the same model
when doing my own packages for FC5.
I take it that the fake mozilla package will "upgrade" the existing
stale mozilla from FC5. In order to "upgrade" the package, the stale
mozilla will be removed. I hope I understand the concept the fake
provides will accomplish. And from then on, mozilla will no longer be
installed.
I was wondering how having the outdated mozilla from FC5 will influence
systems that did not yet install seamonkey. Would systems being upgrade
pull in seamonkey by detecting this fake provides? It does not seem that
this would happen. My logic is probably wrong in understanding the
rationale behind the fake package.
Regarding the development version of seamonkey, it does not obsolete
mozilla. I temporarily enabled the fedora-extras repository and upgraded
seamonkey. One package was upgraded, nothing removed (except the older
version of seamonkey from FC5.
How are current FC5 to FC6Test versions handling the mozilla orphaning?
Apparently "by neglect". :-) There in now no mozilla in FC6Test so
supposedly there is no problem; only some trip on it.
Firefox seems to be one program that tripped.
Are the upgrade attempts removing mozilla, disregarding the possible
conflicts mozilla being stale could cause, or are they removing mozilla
from upgraded systems?
A distribution upgrade installs disregarding possible conflicts so
this is not an issue. You may need to remove later some leftover
packages.
As with the Firefox install problem, I assume that all current packages
in development do not depend upon mozilla any longer. It is probably
safe to assume that mozilla will not erase a slew of packages like FC5
would. It is probably good enough to add this fact to the release notes.
Something like:
Mozilla is no longer provided within any Fedora depositories for FC6. If
you do not use the suite, simply run yum remove "mozilla*"
If you use the suite, run yum install seamonkey after runnig the above
command to remove mozilla. Your mozilla profile will still be available
and used by Seamonkey . Your bookmarks and mail settings will still be
available.
FC5 is of course alright, nothing
conflicts with mozilla as of today. :-)
With this exception that there are security issues with mozilla
and you cannot remove it from FC5, leaving only an updated firefox
for a browser, without removing other packages as well - like
'yelp', for example.
Since Mozilla is not maintained in FC5, at least eclipse, devhelp,
yelp and company should be revised to not need Mozilla. Or the Mozilla
suite should be updated to take care of the security issues.
Jim
Michal
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