Hi. I've been having no luck with the post 2.6.17 Fedora kernels, as there have been numerous glitches, hangs, etc. I know that some of these problems have been fixed as the 2.6.18-rc kernels come out, plus various RH/Fedora patches get fixed and/or applied, but I'm still being regularly bitten by lockups during 'yum update'. The machine is a SMP PIII machine using an Asus motherboard. The network card uses the 8139too module, and the IDE controller is the PIIX4 type. When I boot the machine off a FC5 install disk and use 'linux rescue', I can do a chroot and update the machine without problem. Additionally, I've built and installed the plain 2.6.18-rc3-git1 kernel and my networking problems disappear. So, I believe there is a Fedora specific bug tripping things up. Making the problem more vexing is that I can usually get some network abilities wihtout problems when booting under the Fedora kernel, such as updating my local git and kernel repos with git, or updating GCC with Subversion. Running Firefox, however, will also tend to induce the lockup. It is in trying to debug this problem that I get stuck. A Bugzilla report saying 'Kernel locks up during yum update' seems to me to be essentially useless. When the machine locks up the magic-SysRq key presses do nothing, so I can't provide some sort of info as to where things went boom. If anyone on the list can provide some tips, pointers, or other suggestions as to how to debug this to provide some useful info for a Bugzilla report I would appreciate it greatly. Aside from the kernel issue I've been having, the system has been working relatively smoothly of late. The lockups are just the price to be paid for running Rawhide, and eventually the culprit will be found. Art Haas -- Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. -Thomas Jefferson to James Smith, 1822 -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list