Re: DejaVu fonts for Fedora Core 6 feedback call

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Tom Brinkman wrote:
On 07 5:37:S, Rahul wrote:
Tom Brinkman wrote:

   As I said, other distros solved the qt? / gtk? / dpi font
disparities quite a while ago.  Seems just borrowing their
(Mdv) 'fixes' would be better than reinventing the wheel.

   Since switchin to FC, I jus figured FC hasn't done it since
KDE seems to be treated like a junk yard dog in Fedora. Still a
lot of FC users use KDE, but like me, many Gnome apps too. An
it seems to me this is more important that searchin for a
default font.
Its not searching for a default font. Its considering switching
to a new one. If you think there are other things more important,
contribute. You arent being particularly helpful calling KDE a
junk yard.

Rahul

Somethin must of got lost in translation Rahul. 'treated like a junk yard dog' means 'like a step child', or at best 'put on a back burner'... IE, sort'a ignored, left alone. Which is my perception of FC attitude towards KDE. YMMV

Nothing got lost in translation but you are talking about a different issue. This particular discussion was only about feedback on the dejavu font and not about the user experience of KDE in Fedora. If you find any bugs in KDE file them. On the longer term, we are working on various things that would help improve the KDE experience in Fedora.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnleashKDE



Fact remains that if a user chooses to use KDE with FC, the fonts in KDE are easily configured. Not so for Gnome (gtk) apps the KDE user might also choose to run.

That I guess would a similar experience to trying to change KDE application fonts while running GNOME.


 Runnin g-f-p (in a term right after
boot), with g-f-p already configured from the default 96 dpi (87 for my monitor), fonts an their pt sizes already chosen, pixel smoothin choices configured... will make Gnome apps under KDE (the apps defaults like menu, tool bar, task bar, etc.) comparable to KDE choices. Any font. Rather than tiny to the point of being unreadable for old folks with poor eyes like me. Specially with bigger high res monitors.

The solution is to run g-f-p as stated above. Which fixes it for that session. Problem is it won't survive a logout. A bit of an annoyance that has been solved in other distros for well over a year. An the 'survives a logout' is the only issue I responded to.

I could care little what 'new font' is chosen, as like me, most users choose their own. It would be nice tho if g-f-p choices would survive logouts. NBFD, but it'd make me happier ;)

Most users dont change any font defaults which is the reason why any such changes require a large amount of feedback now. If you find distributions which have patched their own packages to fix any font related issues, attaching that patch and(or) filing a bug report would be helpful. In Fedora, we try to be as close to upstream sources as possible and if those fixes were included in GNOME, they would automatically benefit all downstream distributions and users instead of tackling these kind of issues redundantly in every distributions.


Rahul

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