On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:21 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > On 3/16/06, Dan Thurman <dant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 11:48 -0700, jeff wrote: > > > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:48 -0700, jeff wrote: > > > > > > > >>Dan Thurman wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>But regarding this release, because Fedora has a program (called kudzu) > > > >>>that is behaving ungracefully, I would say that allowing this release to > > > >>>proceed without a fix is just incredulous to me because it is FEDORA's > > > >>>PROBLEM (even if it was caused by the vendor), but since FEDORA's kuzdu > > > >>>HANGS UMGRACEFULLY, does not BYPASS the problem device or driver, it is > > > >>>IMHO a flaw in the code or at least in the design. > > > >> Definitely a flaw. It should never hang, but should have a way to continue even if it fails to properly initialize/identify the device. > > > >>I don't get the rant here. I'm sure there will be an updated kudzu soon > > > >>after the release. Why should the whole thing be held up because your > > > >>proprietary stuff doesn't work? FC5tests have been working great for me. > > > >>I'm glad they're not holding it up. > > > >> > > > >>-Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, easy for you to say for yourself but if you had a problem such that > > > > you cannot install FC5 because you had a "proprietary" (or misbehaving) > > > > driver, then I am sure I would be hearing your rants. To each their > > > > own, right? :-( > > > > > > You can't install at all? > > > > > > I thought it was the problem came up after you installed the proprietary > > > nvidia driver. You could just disable kudzu, if that's the case. > > As far as I know, the only issues with Kudzu have not been with > proprietary drivers. The one I experienced was on x86_64 having an > nVidia card (using the nv driver). My problem exactly. Brand new install of FC5t3 on an x86_64 and the nVidia PCIe video did not work at all. I cannot say I had a problem with kudzu at all, but definitely a video problem with the nv driver. > > It is a software problem and it is called kudzu. I installed NO DRIVERS > > as kudzu just tries to hardware probe devices and in the case of nvidia, > > it is the chip-set on my motherboard that somehow is causing kudzu to > > HANG. I suspect that kuzdu has a BUG, either by code or by design as > > it should NOT HANG UNGRACEFULLY! So, my point is, is that if some other > > devices (be it software or hardware) has any symptoms mimicing nvidia > > then it too will cause kudzu to hang, possibly. Just because it SEEMS > > like a nvidia problem, the fact is, that kudzu should NOT HANG as it > > is a MAJOR PROGRAM during the boot process! If you happen to have a > > device that does this, should you rant too, to be fair? > -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list